The CLC through Stockport

[Poggy1165]

I was actually on that tour with Clan Line, part of the reason being that I wanted to 'do' the Tiviot Dale line again. If it was not the last passenger train to go through it was certainly one of the last. Memory is a bit hazy but I seem to recall we went via Guide Bridge and somehow ended up at Northwich where we we waited for hours while the tender was filled through a drinking straw. (Or so it seemed). There then followed a very fast run through Chester and Wrexham to Shrewsbury. I had lost my connection there and so rode on the Wolverhampton where I managed to catch a train back to Mancland without much trouble. A grand day out as they say, and recall having a good laugh and joke with two or three fellow passengers - sadly I never got their names, let alone their addresses, but they were grand lads.

 

I know some people don't like the Bulleid Pacifics, but I've always had a soft spot for them since that day.

[62613]

It wasn't actually subsidence if I remember correctly, I read somewhere that a crane (or other bit of construction kit) ended up in a void behind the tunnel lining and the line was closed on a precautionary basis whilst damage was assessed. Temporary then became permanent.

 

Simon

 

Correct; or that's what my brother said at the time; he was abooking lad in a couple of the Stockport LNWR boxes then.

Edited May 25, 2012 by 62613

[Michael Delamar]

shots of the Brinnington area in 1968.

 

the m60 now cuts through this section so I take it this section of motorway was a later addition to the part past Tiviot dale.

 

D75xx Brinnington 30.4.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

48026 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

45282 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

45282 Brinnington 30.4.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

 

can see that the right hand distance arm for the route to Romily has been removed from the signal.

 

45392 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

48546 Brinnington 30.4.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

48546 Brinnington 30.4.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

48278 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

45392 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

92160 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

92160 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

 

92160 Brinnington 4.5.68 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

Edited May 25, 2012 by michael delamar

[Michael Delamar]

some other shots of Bredbury tunnel at Brinnington

 

Co-Bo D5708 emerging from west end of Bredbury Tunnel in 1961

http://www.panoramio...r=kh.google.com

 

Jubilee exiting west end of Bredbury tunnel 1961.

http://www.panoramio.../photo/10058317

 

Peak D96 exiting east end of Bredbury tunnel 1961

http://www.panoramio...r=kh.google.com

Edited May 25, 2012 by michael delamar

[Michael Delamar]

few more

 

Britannia at Bredbury 1960

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17294359

 

Ivatt 2-6-0 Heaton Mersey shed 1961

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17294024

[RJS1977]

shots of the Brinnington area in 1968.

 

the m60 now cuts through this section so I take it this section of motorway was a later addition to the part past Tiviot dale.

 

 

Yes, the M63 only went as far as what is now J27. The remaining eastern section of what is now the M60 has only been completed in the last 15 years or so since I left Stockport. It was very convenient that the accident with the crane made the trackbed east of Stockport available for the motorway, although it now takes best part of an hour to get from Bredbury to Stockport by road in the rush hour.....

[65179]

Ok, as requested a few photos of the Tiviot dale/Portwood area. The photos below show the bridges including the bridge over the River Tame and the rest of Portwood Viaduct to just short of Portwood drops/stone terminal.

 

They aren't great photos, but they illustrate the area. They were mainly intended as detail photos so I don't have many overall shots, not that the proximity of the motorway allows many on that side anyway.

 

We start off with a few views of the bridge over the Tame (the confluence of the Tame and Goyt (i.e. the start of the Mersey) is under/alongside the motorway now, but was once alongside the ramp for the Tiviot Dale station approach).

 

 

 

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A view after removal of the bridge

 

 

Next one of those buildings which no one would believe if you modelled it: a ramshackle extended pub (the Mill Stone Inn)which then served as a small engineering concern on an almost triangular site tucked between road, railway, mill and perched above an abandoned mill race.

 

 

Then a few views of the various bridges

 

 

A reminder of the tannery that used to be down the road

 

 

 

I've got a few views of what was left of the stone terminal (i.e. the rebuilt coal drops) which I'll post in the next few days if anyone is interested.

 

Simon

[RJS1977]

 

We start off with a few views of the bridge over the Tame (the confluence of the Tame and Goyt (i.e. the start of the Mersey) is under/alongside the motorway now, but was once alongside the ramp for the Tiviot Dale station approach).

 

 

 

Simon

 

My understanding was it's under Mersey Square shopping centre (hence the name!)

[Michael Delamar]

have a watch of this film from 1946, interesting scenes of the Guyt and Tame at Stockport, I think it just shows the railway bridge at Tiviot dale.

 

skip to about 4mins in, past the part on how great Liverpool is

 

http://film.britishcouncil.org/merseyside

[Michael Delamar]

edit that, it does, at 5min 15 the camera pans round from looking at Howard street road bridge towards the railway bridge (or rather the road bridge infront of the railway bridge) where the motorway crosses in front of now and where the 2 rivers join.

Edited May 26, 2012 by michael delamar

[Edwin_m]

My understanding was it's under Mersey Square shopping centre (hence the name!)

 

No, the Goyt/Mersey is alongside the motorway (presumably diverted southwards when the motorway was built, though the old bridge on Howards Street must span the original course so it can't have moved much) and the Tame comes underneath the motorway so they join at a particularly uninspiring spot 100m or so upstream of Mersey Square. Here is a Bing map.

[Michael Delamar]

couple more brakevan views.

 

40117 nearing Brinnington Tunnel Dec 1977 by Deadmans Handle, on Flickr

 

40117 on 9T29 at Brinnington Junction 18th November 1977 by Deadmans Handle, on Flickr

 

40117 Georges Rd Scrapyard, Stockport, Dec 1977 by Deadmans Handle, on Flickr

Edited May 26, 2012 by michael delamar

[woodenhead]

Ahh the little shunter in the scrapyard, can remember seeing that when I used to pass over Georges Rd on the WCML viaduct.

[65179]

A few more photos of the Portwood area in 1992. They all show the remains of the stone terminal after demolition of the structures added after the site ceased to be coal drops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By this point the line had been cut back to the replacement stone terminal near Bredbury.

 

Simon

Edited May 26, 2012 by 65179

[woodenhead]

Is the Bredbury terminal still in use, saw it yesterday on googlemaps.

[bennyboy]

That picture of the Georges Rd scrapyard is priceless! I didn't even realise that it existed at the time, but I've been fascinated by it ever since I saw a picture of it in a book. Talking of which there is one called M63 Motorway through a Town by William B Ball, which although it is about the construction of the motorway, it does feature some great photos of the railway as it was in the early 80s.

 

Also all those pictures of the Brinnington Tunnel had reminded me of the odd fact that a line of concrete sleepers were left in place decades after the line was lifted for some reason.

[Michael Delamar]

I know the CLC isnt in shot in this picture but I thought it such a good shot to post here..

 

L S Lowry contemplating Stockport. by Smabs Sputzer, on Flickr

[Michael Delamar]

overall shot of the shed at Heaton mersey.

 

Heaton Mersey Stockport 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

 

turntable and coaling stage

 

Stockport Heaton Mersey Cheshire 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

 

dragged out the shed.

 

Heaton Mersey Stockport 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

 

Heaton Mersey Stockport Cheshire 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

 

convoy leaves the shed.

Heaton Mersey Stockport Cheshire 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

 

Heaton Mersey Stockport Cheshire 4th May 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr

[buckdancer]

Michael - thanks for these photos.

I liked the Lowry one and so went off Googling to see what others are around - thanks for the inspiration and an interesting half hour or so!

[Michael Delamar]

I think the only section I havent seen any shots on without looking in any books so far, is the junction outside the shed.

 

and any trackplan of that area and the shed itself.

[bennyboy]

I think the only section I havent seen any shots on without looking in any books so far, is the junction outside the shed.

 

and any trackplan of that area and the shed itself.

 

There's a trackplan of the shed in Heaton Mersey Motive Power Depot by Michael S Stokes.

[62613]

Is the Bredbury terminal still in use, saw it yesterday on googlemaps.

 

Now a refuse collection station; the trains run to a tip somewhere in North Lincolnshire. Roxby?

[beast66606]

Now a refuse collection station; the trains run to a tip somewhere in North Lincolnshire. Roxby?

 

Correct, Roxby at the moment.

[woodenhead]

I can see the refuse siding, the stone terminal was/is separate on the old alignment to Tiviot Dale

[pharrc20]

I can see the refuse siding, the stone terminal was/is separate on the old alignment to Tiviot Dale

 

The stone terminal is located behind what used to be Quaffers nightclub and the DIY store. If you go round the back of the DIY store you can see the buffer stops and further up the line the unloading shed.

 

Cheers Paul