br2975 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 In 1967 I was wandering around Buttigiegs scrapyard in Newport Docks when I came across the only (rebuilt) Crosti boilered 9F (or should it be 8F ?) I ever saw, 92027. . Incongruously parked in front of the 'Crosti' was one of the BR built 'Pontnewynydd' brake vans or, as they were commonly known a 'Noah's Ark'. . I clambered all over the brake van, and nearly decapitated myself due to the low door, but never recorded the number. . Over the years I thought I may have imagined the episode, that is until I saw this ..... . http://www.flickr.com/photos/curly42/6628234531/in/photostream/ . So, after all these years, does anyone know which van it was ? (I believe BR only built two, as replacements for the GWR versions). . Answers on a postcard please addressed to 'an old codger' ! . Brian R 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Hello Brian, Either 17590, or 17591. I've got a sneaky feeling that they both ended up at Newport. There are some photos about, from a different angle, and these show the number to good effect. Sorry to say, I don't have a copy here. As an aside, one of the lads at Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway is quietly putting a Pontnewynydd toad back together. Early days yet, with setting out odds & ends, and seeing what other parts, from possible donors, are about. Regards, Ian Edit;- A few years back, I espied a very tattered Toad body high above the mountain between Merthyr & Rhymney. With the owners permission, I was able to recover the transverse sander operating bar, plus a few bits & bobs of the interior furniture. The framework for a real life Toad is fairly straightforward, being mostly 1' (300mm ) rolled steel channel. Edited February 6, 2021 by tomparryharry More info. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 The numbers of the BR-built vans were B 950540 and B 950541. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Ian & Bill, thank you both. . I believe the van I saw was one of the BR built versions, which replaced the GWR originals. . So, that narrows it down ...... if only I knew the withdrawal date(s) - in fact seeing one in 1967 could mean the van(s) lasted longer than I thought. . I wonder if there are any photos out there of them being pushed by a diesel ? . Brian R Edited January 20, 2013 by br2975 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I have a copy of Steam World from October 2006. There is an article on Cashmores at Newport, there is a photograph of B 950541 , lettered Pontnewyntdd, taken in the yard Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2013 The numbers of the BR-built vans were B 950540 and B 950541. Bill Thank you Bill, my mix-up. My 'bible' here suggests that the BR versions had the same runnng numbers ( or, were due to have them). Now you've reminded me, I'll need to check my (Rowland?) book. It seems at one point, there were 4 vans on the Pontnewynydd branch, one of which was either vac braked, or thro' piped. Another pesky photo I can't find. Regards, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 B950541, somewhere in Newport Docks, 1967 . Photographer unknown. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purnu Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 And here's a link to a photo of one in service. https://rcts.zenfolio.com/rolling-stock/gwr/hD28C0C86#hd28c0c86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Interesting, One is also in the background here, this was recorded as Cashmore's but the loco was indeed scrapped at Buttigiegs https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p600875790/ha53bfcf#ha53bfcf Tony Edited February 7, 2021 by Rail-Online correction of location after further research Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Rail-Online said: Interesting, One is also in the background here, this was recorded as Cashmore's but the loco was indeed scrapped at Buttigiegs https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p600875790/ha53bfcf#ha53bfcf Tony If you tried taking that photo today, you would get run over. The sheds still exist, but a busy road covers the spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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