RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted March 31, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) I am having to build a lot of carflats for my Kensington Olympia layout. This has meant buying many Farish Mk1's at the best possible price just for the underframes and bogies. The Carflat topic can be found HERE. For my second batch of carflats this has left me with several Mk1 BSK bodies in blue / grey livery. A certain shop has these at just £11 each. As the layout is based in 1980 the bodies are ideal so what to do with them? After some thought it seemed that by using two BSK bodies and doing a cut and shunt job on the brakevan ends a BSO would not be too hard to produce. Here is the progress so far.... The Mk1 BSO has 5 passenger bays and a small brakevan area but not just a shortened version of the BSK. There is also an additional window in the corridor opposite the toilet, i.e between the left-hand door and the first passenger bay. Top is a Mk1 BSK dismantled with one cut down the hinge line of the centre passenger door. Bottom are the constituent parts of the new right-hand end At the top are the parts for the opposite side. The BSK has now had it's brake van area removed and the BSO parts loose fitted to check the accuracy. The parts now glued in place, the arrows show where the joints are. The joints are a better fit than the picture shows but will need a little sanding and filler to hide them before painting. The additional window opposite the toilet has been cut out and a glazing unit test fitted. Just spotted the 2nd arrow shouldn't be there! DOH! The fifth seating bay saloon door, inward opening door and single window are all one part. Edited March 31, 2013 by acg5324 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Interesting, as I need to recreate a BSO(T) for one of my Oban / Fort William rakesI was considering modifying the BCK, replacing the roof and interior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted April 29, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Well after a while with no progress due to work here are the latest images of the BSK to BSO conversion. The interior roughly assembled to check dimensions and fit. The body shell assembled and lightly rubbed down, a small amount of filler was required. And finally two images of the assembled and partly painted vehicle, one of each side. It looks very rough blown up this big!!!! Running number not yet removed................It will be M9225 Edited April 29, 2013 by acg5324 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hi , Thanks for this - prompted me to follow suit but I have a BCK and BSK, looks like I can graft the middle parts of BSO into BCK so only two cuts - one join down the side of a window and the other mid way between two "smaller" windows in the van area. If this gets beyond the ponder stage I will post some pics here - if ok. Spare chassis to go under Caroline. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hi , Thanks for this - prompted me to follow suit but I have a BCK and BSK, looks like I can graft the middle parts of BSO into BCK so only two cuts The roofs are slightly different too, as in the BCK the toilet is next to the Guards area, whilst in the BSO it as the other end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jim T Posted February 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 Nice work there Andy Sorry to pick this up ages after the event but I'm looking to do a few conversions myself: an RB from the RU for example. Where did you source the interior from? It's the open second class bit that I'm particularly interested in as Farish have yet to do a blue/grey TSO. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted February 9, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) The interior was from a TSO plus the brakevan area reused from the BSK. Farish have done loads of Blue Grey TSOs the current one is a C suffix, fourth issue. I think my interior probably came from a SR green one as the chassis would have been used for a Carflat conversion. There are some pictures of the finished coach on my Olympia layout thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75679-kensington-olympia-in-n-scale/?p=1742756 Edited February 9, 2017 by acg5324 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jim T Posted February 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 The interior was from a TSO plus the brakevan area reused from the BSK. Farish have done loads of Blue Grey TSOs the current one is a C suffix, fourth issue. I think my interior probably came from a SR green one as the chassis would have been used for a Carflat conversion. There are some pictures of the finished coach on my Olympia layout thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75679-kensington-olympia-in-n-scale/?p=1742756 Thanks Andy. I couldn't find the TSOs because they're listed as SOs on many websites. A couple are on the way now. I was very interested to see the BSO, I've done a few cut and shut conversions in 4mm scale but not in 2mm so it was encouraging to see that someone had given it a go. I'll have to dig the mark 1 coaches book it and work out how best to get the various catering vehicles I would like to do, starting with an RB and an RBK. Anyway, thanks for the inspiration and the prompt response :-) Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted February 10, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think Bachmann / Farishs logic with the RU was that they could use liveries earlier than B/G whereas the RBRs were not all the same and I think could only be produced accurately in B/G and Executive. I've just renumbered and lettered my RU as an RBR. I'd still prefer it if they modelled an RBR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think Bachmann / Farishs logic with the RU was that they could use liveries earlier than B/G whereas the RBRs were not all the same and I think could only be produced accurately in B/G and Executive. I've just renumbered and lettered my RU as an RBR. I'd still prefer it if they modelled an RBR. Faulty logic. An RU converted to RBR has a different window arrangement (the change was made earlier with the conversion to RBs - s for small buffet counter). An RB converted to RBR has unaltered windows so an RB is a better choice when it comes to liveries other than that I have a feeling no RB was ever in WR choc/cream. The newest livery appropriate for an RU is blue/grey and even then (without looking it up) that would only be applicable up to the mid-'70s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted February 10, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2017 Faulty logic. An RU converted to RBR has a different window arrangement (the change was made earlier with the conversion to RBs - s for small buffet counter). An RB converted to RBR has unaltered windows so an RB is a better choice when it comes to liveries other than that I have a feeling no RB was ever in WR choc/cream. The newest livery appropriate for an RU is blue/grey and even then (without looking it up) that would only be applicable up to the mid-'70s. I was close.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diyceejay Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Any chance you could shown me your photos, as they have been lost since the website upgrade? I'm keen to produce a Mk1BSO and would love to see your results. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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