Bodmin Bob Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 A rarity from the Southern here. Southern EMUs rarely contained vehicles within a set in different liveries as the fixed formations of sets meant they would tend to go through works and every vehicle would be repainted at the same time ( although there were a few exceptions over the years). So this shot is rare from that perspective but also in that it shows the rare combination of a 4 VEP motor coach (in blue) coupled to what appears to be a trio of 4CIG coaches in blue and grey. The unusual headboard (presumably indicating that it is a test train) and the unusual headcode (34) adds to the mystery. If you ran this on a layout then you would attract howls of disbelief! The picture was taken at Surbiton around 1971/2 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2016 Buffer stops back to back at Ormskirk. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 There was another place in the same area that had back to back stops but a ground frame connection between the two. Does that still exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The only place I can think of is Kirkby, but there was never any connection between east and west systems after the Merseyrail electrification extended to there that I am aware of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 I'll have to look on a map but I'm sure there was somewhere round there with a connection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Not a great photo! I struggled with the bushes/fence/angle Tram-train electrification mast beside Magna in Rotherham Edited May 2, 2016 by Talltim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 For anyone wanting an excuse to run a Class 91 and Mk4 set on the Western Region: http://mark5812.smugmug.com/keyword/bristol;depot/i-qxhKf7P/A Its got a models twisted buffer? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 There's a distinct lack of wires too. Did they use a reeeeeeeelly long extension lead? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2016 There was another place in the same area that had back to back stops but a ground frame connection between the two. Does that still exist? That may well have been Ormskirk. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyphil Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) There was another place in the same area that had back to back stops but a ground frame connection between the two. Does that still exist? That may well have been Ormskirk. Cheers, Mick Yup, Originally they left the other side of the loop for excursions and special through services. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7204/14013892312_f442b4ed16_b.jpg Gone now though. Edited May 3, 2016 by lankyphil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 Buffer stops back to back at Ormskirk. IMG_1318.jpg We could have done with those in Plymouth Station a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge605 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 a0011.jpgA rarity from the Southern here. Southern EMUs rarely contained vehicles within a set in different liveries as the fixed formations of sets meant they would tend to go through works and every vehicle would be repainted at the same time ( although there were a few exceptions over the years). So this shot is rare from that perspective but also in that it shows the rare combination of a 4 VEP motor coach (in blue) coupled to what appears to be a trio of 4CIG coaches in blue and grey. The unusual headboard (presumably indicating that it is a test train) and the unusual headcode (34) adds to the mystery. If you ran this on a layout then you would attract howls of disbelief! The picture was taken at Surbiton around 1971/2 Headcode 34 was for up services empty stock to wimbledon park depot or ex Eastleigh works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2016 That may well have been Ormskirk.Cheers,Mick Yup, Originally they left the other side of the loop for excursions and special through services. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7204/14013892312_f442b4ed16_b.jpg Gone now though. Thanks for that I knew there was somewhere like it,shame it's gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 a0011.jpgA rarity from the Southern here. Southern EMUs rarely contained vehicles within a set in different liveries as the fixed formations of sets meant they would tend to go through works and every vehicle would be repainted at the same time ( although there were a few exceptions over the years). So this shot is rare from that perspective but also in that it shows the rare combination of a 4 VEP motor coach (in blue) coupled to what appears to be a trio of 4CIG coaches in blue and grey. The unusual headboard (presumably indicating that it is a test train) and the unusual headcode (34) adds to the mystery. If you ran this on a layout then you would attract howls of disbelief! The picture was taken at Surbiton around 1971/2 Is the unit number readable on the original image? Just wondering if it says 7739, IIRC one DTC of this unit remained 'spare' after the formation of the 8VAB unit (from the majority of vehicles from 7739/7741/7742) There were 3xTSO and 2xDTC left spare but by 1969, 2xTSO and 1xDTC had been used to replace vehicles in other sets.(source R.O. Nov.1969). If I've read it correctly, then this may be DTC 76370. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) I hope the loco has a cast lion and wheel emblem on the body-side, because there are not that many shots of them in those early days. The first half dozen photos here have this symbol. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brelectric Not the best photos, but I was only a teenager. Incidentally I did get a quote for purchasing one of these lions when they were taken off but I couldn't afford it - and I have no idea where I would have kept it until I ended my student days! I suspect I didn't think through how large they were. Paul Edited May 3, 2016 by hmrspaul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodmin Bob Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Is the unit number readable on the original image? Just wondering if it says 7739, IIRC one DTC of this unit remained 'spare' after the formation of the 8VAB unit (from the majority of vehicles from 7739/7741/7742) There were 3xTSO and 2xDTC left spare but by 1969, 2xTSO and 1xDTC had been used to replace vehicles in other sets.(source R.O. Nov.1969). If I've read it correctly, then this may be DTC 76370. I haven't got the original print unfortunately but I think the VEP vehicle is very likely to be a spare from the 8 VAB donations as stated. Another possibility though is that it may have been the undamaged DTC from unit 7714 which was involved in the crash that occurred at this location in July 1971 which I think became spare for a while until 7714 was ultimately reformed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Justification for a "run anything together" layout: http://c8.alamy.com/comp/A1PMR6/steam-locomotive-no80098-and-diesel-locomotive-no-33098-at-tonbridge-A1PMR6.jpg 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Random stretch of 3rd rail fitted track in St Philips Marsh depot, Bristol on the wheel lathe road. Anyone know why? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Yup, we do our PTS assessments there. The driving school covers a lot of third rail lines - it's a lot quicker to walk to the wheel lathe rather than the south coast to practice with the shorting bars and track circuit clips. I also assume if we turned something third rail you could set up the pick up shoe? (It's not for the mule, they use the yellow bars in the four foot) Edited May 3, 2016 by modfather 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) To allow for adjustment of the shoe gear height after the wheels have been turned? If the wheels are turned enough, the shoes may be too low and require to be raised by the same amount? EDIT : missed modfather's post! Edited May 3, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 Later made it to four power cars. https://www.flickr.com/photos/motorsportevents/26147735704/in/photolist-FQzYRo-FQcvYZ-GkYm1A-GAu96w-GA43UQ-GmaLom-riLMxZ-GCs5mi-riLFfD-riJe2X-qmGVbm-riLRYT-qn4FKk-GEo8Y4-qmRkNw-rgvPPW-rgw2fG-riAPbf-riNXRa-r2mUiF-r2or46-r2hzMw-qZu64e-qmKqsy-qZsHCa-riG3QD-r2nxEK-riP17T-riPo2z-rguXe7-r2f2co-riJ9RH-r2o72Z-qmPSGQ-qn2qPH-qmNtxW-r2n92n-riJcB3-rgsbw5-r2oAdP-qmNTbh-r2g1bW-rgskcb-r2hWEU-riDmae-qZt9UT-riGFWH-riHcWJ-riNTri-riKyyp And then one was swapped for another. https://www.flickr.com/photos/valiant15/26688616831/in/photolist-GEo8Y4-qmRkNw-rgvPPW-rgw2fG-riAPbf-riNXRa-r2mUiF-r2or46-r2hzMw-qZu64e-qmKqsy-qZsHCa-riG3QD-r2nxEK-riP17T-riPo2z-rguXe7-r2f2co-riJ9RH-r2o72Z-qmPSGQ-qn2qPH-qmNtxW-r2n92n-riJcB3-rgsbw5-r2oAdP-qmNTbh-r2g1bW-rgskcb-r2hWEU-riDmae-qZt9UT-riGFWH-riHcWJ-riNTri-riKyyp-riFoqg-r2g3ko-riHF5R-rgvbAN-riDG92-qmNqGq-riGvvH-riDKja-qZqNJB-qZqYEZ-r2hvYY-r2deVU-qZt1VB Cheers, Mick And the return working was even more unprototypical.......... https://www.flickr.com/photos/117309723@N02/26184225633/in/photolist-FTP136-GEQxbW-FSPswe-GNu9AF-GpzoKA-FTQLD9-GHfJCx-GpJkP7-FT4fyP-GEUiS3-Go5JYA-GLcimJ-GonuDQ-GG8q6c-Go1EnQ-FUmhAV-GF9YhG-GF414j-FSZteY-GL9nvm-FUDwsD-GDLyGL-GKTugW-GDVDZw-GnY66d-GGeZAX-GN2zx8-GL97S3-Gq7ksG-FSGDMq-GHS3EK-GNtSE2-GJhAw2-FSW4EP-GLehzj-GE9E81-FT517v-GKXZnJ-FSEZFh-GN1JDN-GF5upL-GDTWju-GGf4KD-Gp73ZC-GNtNZ6-GQ1sDZ-GGn1RP-FUxhRo-GHYnnc-FSKftf Cheers, Mick 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpster Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Aha! I saw that consist waiting to leave Heaton Depot (three power cars pulling a Mark 3 coach at that point) as I was waiting for the metro to the match on Saturday. I remember thinking "If only I had my camera I could have put a photo on the 'Prototype for Everything' thread" and lo and behold someone else has!Arp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 The first half dozen photos here have this symbol. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brelectric Not the best photos, but I was only a teenager. Incidentally I did get a quote for purchasing one of these lions when they were taken off but I couldn't afford it - and I have no idea where I would have kept it until I ended my student days! I suspect I didn't think through how large they were. Paul Thanks; although the first three are not AL6s, which were the class I was referring to - but probably not making myself clear enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted June 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2016 Ever wanted to run that big pacific but only have a branch line? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209185975030155&set=gm.1202624793101907&type=3&theater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sadly, that link doesn't work for me. I think it depends on the individual Facebook settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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