shortliner Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 .......to be able to sit here, smiling in an indulgent and avuncular manner, at all the twittering, frothing and glee from those posting in the Hornby 2014 thread - knowing that there isn't one single release that I want? Sorry but I'm in a "Bah, Humbug!" mood today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 All is calm here, no frothing, no twittering. Just contemplating what to build in the new shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Got power yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Friday, allegedly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Actually, there are a few I'd like, but my will power (and more importantly the lock on my wallet) is strong enough to keep me on the dark side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 While I am pleased for those who have been wanting certain models, I am happy to sit back and smile at their 'enthusiasm'! What gets me is that announcement thread is up to 9 pages already and the speculation thread, well that was just ridiculous! And, after all, every single (00) model is wrong, ha, ha, ha! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodshaw Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 .......to be able to sit here, smiling in an indulgent and avuncular manner, at all the twittering, frothing and glee from those posting in the Hornby 2014 thread - knowing that there isn't one single release that I want? Sorry but I'm in a "Bah, Humbug!" mood today Just think of all that money you're going to save next year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 No it is not - I nearly fainted when I saw not one but two former GER locos....a J15 and a Claud. My brother must be spinning in his proverbial. I'll have to get one of each for my Studio (probably in 2015.....). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 The 2-HAL looks pretty correct too.....I'm going to be bankrupted by them..... It's certainly better than my Tru-line C-Liners..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The 2-HAL looks pretty correct too.....I'm going to be bankrupted by them..... It's certainly better than my Tru-line C-Liners..... Yeah but who models Southern anyway? Apart from Al (Barry Ten)????? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just think of all that money you're going to save next year! But I'm bound to see some "darkside" models in urgent need of good homes....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I may have to thin out my collection Jack, you can have first dibs.... BTW, tell me not to waste my money buying Model Railroad magazines again. Flippin' eck they are thin on content these days. Whatever happened to long form prose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I may have to thin out my collection Jack, you can have first dibs.... BTW, tell me not to waste my money buying Model Railroad magazines again. Flippin' eck they are thin on content these days. Whatever happened to long form prose? I must admit that a certain US magazine is very rapidly approaching the point where there is more advertising than content - largely due, I suspect, to their policy of moving on/promoting to other editorial positions/employing " college qualified" staff, rather than real modellers - despite their having occasional "in house" project layouts. There are really only so many ways of stuffing the 8 x 4 down customers throats, or trying to persuade them that they "must" aspire to a basement filler - The current issue of GMR is a prize example, and while I appreciate what LM is trying to show/prove, I'm not sure that he is convincing the rest of the customers PS Thanks for the offer! Now where am I going to put them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 well my journey to the darkside was aided by the near impossibility of modelling rural east anglia as it was in my very first memories. so I have been gradually getting obsessed with another unloved railway the Illinois Central. I have just nearly plucked up enough courage to order a deathstar Intermountain GP10 (with sound to meet my new trip into the world of DCC) and Hornby announce a J15 and Claud. I cannot stand the expense or the split loyalties - the kids are going to have to go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I forgot about the March based K1 too......... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I too am immune to anything Hornby release... .... unless by some million-to-one shot miracle it just happened to be an O Scale GP38-2, or CF7.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 I have to admit to cancelling MR....dumbed down too far even for me. Clambake have ruined their publications IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointstaken Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I've already got my quota of darkside models, so I'll save a lot more than any of you - so Yah Boo ! Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I may have to thin out my collection Jack, you can have first dibs.... BTW, tell me not to waste my money buying Model Railroad magazines again. Flippin' eck they are thin on content these days. Whatever happened to long form prose? Well, you get that in RMC. The trouble is that they are often of subjects that are incredibly tedious. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Well, you get that in RMC. The trouble is that they are often of subjects that are incredibly tedious. Best, Pete. Is it the US equivalent of the MRJ? five close typed pages all about the wobbly bits that go under wagons to stop them falling off P4 track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Is it the US equivalent of the MRJ? five close typed pages all about the wobbly bits that go under wagons to stop them falling off P4 track? Not quite, think of "Model Railways" back in the 70's - long form articles,proper drawings and articles by really good modellers - I like it (it also majors on North Eastern and Canadian subjects) Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Bad quote and I shouldn't have written it. The fact is that by their nature such detailed articles often makes a rather dull read unless the reader is constructing something along the same lines. The reason I subscribe to RMC is for what Nick alludes to in his reply - Lots of stuff on the North East of the USA. The mag itself is based in New Jersey. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highpeak Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Pete has a good point re the sometimes overly long sagas, I think they quite recently did a number of two or three parters on some pretty specialised stuff. Great if you are also into that, also good if there are transferable techniques, otherwise it can be a bit much. P87 doesn't really get much coverage in either of the big two print magazines. MR did a series quite a while ago by Ian Rice (the Roque Bluff layout), I can't recall RMC ever having anything in P87. My hunch (and that's all it is, it would be interesting to have some numbers) is that there are fewer US modelers doing P87 relative to "standard" HO than there are P4/EM modelers relative to OO, adjusting for overall populations in each case. I suspect that might be because the NMRA HO standards worked pretty well to begin with in that for a long time most products have conformed to the standard fairly well. I am not disputing the fact that P87 is more accurate and so on, just that the standard wasn't that bad compared to the British scene as it was when P4 started. My impression is that the proprietary standards in OO have improved in the last decade or so and are more or less where US HO standards have been for a long time. Of course, the lack of coverage might also be down to no authors willing to write. I can't believe there are no layouts suitable to be featured. There seems to be decent support, with the big gap being P87 wheels for steam engines which is quite an obstacle if your interests include them. That was the deal breaker for me (well, that and the fact that I struggle to build track to NMRA standards), but it would be interesting to have some input from modelers like Lance Mindheim, who could be said to have advanced the standard in other areas, on why they stick to the NMRA standard. I really am not wanting to start a US style standards war here, my musings were prompted by the remark about MRJ and P4 stuff, and it got me thinking that it is pretty invisible in the modelling print world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 RMC had a number of articles by Rene Gorley on P87 which I seem to recall covered at least some of the nuts and bolts on working in the scale. I agree that one reason for a low take up of P87 in North America is probably that the incremental improvement over what the RTR manufacturers offer is less compared with what modellers would working in UK or European prototype would achieve. Just for fun I compared the flange depth on an RP25 wheel set with an 00 finescale replacement set by Alan Gibson, RP25 was 1.16mm the 00 one was 1.2mm Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 That's the advantage of Shortlines and Switching layouts. The local shortline to me (Black River and Western) only uses loose heeled #8 turnouts/switches - available from Shinohara, Peco or Atlas. I agree with you that tread width is the real issue and it's really noticeable on freight cars. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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