Sr-Dixon Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi all, ive started on a track plan for my second attempt at a model railway, after this first became too complex for its size in reality. so here is Feltenham Mk2 a small oo gauge layout measuring 11ft x 2ft, with an additional part later for the casette fiddle yard. This layout is yet another addition to the small country branchline layouts!...i can hear the yawns already :/ but due to size restraints and no desire to sell all my stock and go down to n gauge this will do me fine! as you can see from the track plan, it is a single track branchline terminus, with a goods shed, small engine shed, cattle dock and incorperating a rail weighbridge and a vehicle loading/unloading ramp, mainly being used to transport the small amount of local milk via small roadbased tankers etc all trackwork is peco code 75, and i intend to have working semaphore sigals and static point rodding, when i learn how to do this!!! when complete i intend to change the era per week, starting from SE&CR, through to early southern, later southern, early br. late br, avoiding br blue era and straight into preservation. i do not intend for the buildings or signalling equiptment to change with the times, however rail stock, road stock, people and posters will change, via magnetic paint! any thoughts or recommendations on what i have down so far? the baseboards wont be changed as i already have them built! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Another thing I want to have on the layout, a motorised gated level crossing! However I'm no good electrical diagrams and think I might be as well to employ a very small person to do it manually!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2014 Basically fine. I would suggest making the runround loop longer by moving the turnout that leads to it to the right of the turnout leading to the bay. The layout will also look better if the main platform is not parallel with the baseboard edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks for that, looking at it from another perspective I think some confusion may come with the colours I've chosen to show the road entrance! There is only a single platform, ending where the station building is, with a wall behind the buffer stops, so the area to the top left is road,pathway & shops. I think I might be able to angle the platform slightly to bring it to a slight curve, this might even improve the length too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I may have misinterpreted your diagram, but although there is nothing wrong about it, I would make the following comments: Railway companies didn’t really like herds of cows being driven through their goods yards, so either the dock would be near the road entrance on the left, substituting for the coal bins (staithes in Kent?) or there would be a separate livestock entrance at the other end onto your road. A similar comment regarding the vehicle ramp. As drawn, and serviced from the left hand side, vehicles would have to traverse the length of the yard and then manoeuvre up the ramp, which would also clash with the cattle dock. Vehicle end loading platforms were generally higher than passenger platforms to get over buffers and the ends of wagons (around 4 feet?) and a sensible slope, say 1 in 7, would require some 30 feet in a straight line. The neighbouring LBSCR often combined cattle docks and end and side loading bays, which would be an efficient way of providing them here. I am not sure what the siding above the cattle dock is supposed to be for, as it seems a little inaccessible. While coal bins adjacent to tracks were not unknown in the South East, their location as drawn would not really be effective. Every lump of coal would have to be unloaded first into the pen and then into the delivery wagon as there is no easy way to get the road vehicle up close to the railway wagon, although I suppose this could happen on one of the other sidings. I am not sure how common rail weighbridges would have been in the South East. A road vehicle weighbridge would seem more likely, for monitoring deliveries of coal etc. and your milk tankers could be checked similarly prior to loading on the railway truck. You may find the absence of a second run-round loop for the goods yard creates a problem, but this would depend on the level of passenger service anticipated, and whether the platform road can be kept clear for this. Similarly, the route to the loco shed requires access to the bay platform, awkward if your intensive passenger service makes use of this track. If the level crossing is as close to the station as it looks, I suspect that there would not be a crossing keeper’s house, but the signal box would control the gates, being placed closer to the road, although this might mean that in early days the crossover at eh end of the platform would have been operated by a lever frame. The box itself might be quite small, as it would only be working a handful of points and associated facing point locks, besides the fairly minimal signalling required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 thanks for that had a re-plot, as you should be able to see! in terms of passenger service, it will be relatively infrequent, and more than likely served by a pull-push service most of the time, so the platform area will be free for wagon sorting. there is now a loading bay & cattle dock at the end of he platform, the platform is at road level so will not require a ramp up. the goods shed has been re deployed and the engine shed relocated. the siding between the goods shed and runaround is more of a storage siding for brake ans etc, coal is now more of a piled area than straight into pens etc which can be sorted by the local coal merchant! have to give him a job during the quiet periods! also not everything needs to go through the goods shed as there will be mobile cranes & conveyers nearby, and definately alot more room for vehicle movements! i'll deem road movements to be able to enter from both the platform end and the road to the right. with a small scenic section along the bottom of the goods yard with piled up goods etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 I had a little play around with a mock up of this plan last night and as far as I can tell everything functions the way it was planned! That's a first for me haha. Although I think I may space the track out a little as it all seems a bit too condensed, and not only is it functional it saved me the cost of 2 cobalt set ups!! Providing everyone agrees with this plan I better start planning point rodding & signalling, I'm aiming to get more or less everything planned on paper first before I start making things permanent as I did in the last attempt! Suppose I now have no use for my 2bil, as I don't think a declining branch line would have been electrified. Just wish they would release a rtr green mk1 suburban set!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Just wish they would release a rtr green mk1 suburban set!! Do you mean the one that is (occasionally) available from Replica Railways? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yup, although I foresee that kernows push pull stock and the birdcage stock will be used mostly, plus standard mk1s thrown in, I do like the look of bachmanns suburban mk1's so hopefully they might consider some southern region ones, although I'm sure the crimsons may have ventured along in a mixed set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_1066 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Instead of trying to cram the cattle dock into the middle road what about splaying out the goods yard and putting it on an angle like this? It would give you a bit more room to model it and it wouldn't be lost behind the goods shed. It also gives more separation between your cattle and paying passengers and allows side loading. I've also had a little play with pivoting the three way point: Putting it on slight angle could allow you to do away with the double slip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Now we're getting somewhere!! I'm liking that one a lot, however how does this sit on a 6ftx2 and a 5x2 board, as they'll have to be separated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_1066 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If the 6ft board is the left one with a little bit of squeezing on lengths you can get all your points on it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Works for me!! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I've finalised the design, after a few modifications, basically merging the last 2 full plans together. I've now printed off a 1:1 size plan, so I can start planning for buildings etc before I go out buying!! Now the new questions Any ideas what a single road se&cr engine shed would look like? Any ideas what a se&cr water tower would look like, or if it's even correct to have one on this size location, or would it be more logical to say that sr updated the system. Am I right in thinking that on this kind of single track railway, that the signal box would be moved to the opposite side of the rails on the previous plan, for the purpose of handing over tokens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr-Dixon Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Oops forgot another thing, would this sort of location provided unloading of fuel/oil tankers, and would I have to create a separate siding for this in the interest of things not blowing up via sparking!! Or as this is a small station, would it be more logical to say that a tank trailer being unloaded from a lowfit/conflat would be more suited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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