contimod65 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Having looked at various layouts both big and small including my model railway clubs layout, I've decided to move up to O gauge. I'm looking to build a micro layout as I don't have a great deal of space at home.the main board will be 1676mm by 500mm with a 300mm max sector plate.This will be placed on the top of a heavy duty paste table. I have placed my order for a Dapol 08 shunter with Hattons and eagerly await its arrival. In the meantime I will be buying a few wagon kits to build some of the stock. It will be based on the BR Blue period as I'm not really into steam as it ended just after I was born & before I had a chance to explore it.I have been playing about with a copy of anyrail using Peco pointwork and have come up with this plan so far. So please take a look at the attached image and feel free to make any comments. The sector plate is on the right hand end.The idea being that wagons are shunted directly into either of the two roads and then the empties are shunted into the departure road in the middle and then pulled off scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This reminds me of a similar plan I've seen on here but the name escapes me right now. Peco points are big - as you've no doubt already realised. You may find it easier to reduce the points and just have plain lines coming in from the sector plate. There are plenty of people with much more experience in such matters than I, who will no doubt be able to give additional advice. Welcome to the dark side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You're probably thinking St Budoc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The plan is similar to Leintwardine as well but will look completely different. Best of luck with it I have placed my order for a Dapol 08 shunter with Hattons and eagerly await its arrival. In the meantime I will be buying a few wagon kits to build some of the stock. I hope you're not holding your breath, on the plus side you should have plenty of time to build up some wagons to shunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm not holding my breath either. I want the Dapol Terrier when it comes out, though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now all ive got to do is decide the industries? Any idea's anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Now all ive got to do is decide the industries? Any idea's anyone? To some extent this will be dictated by what stock you want to run and how you intend to operate. For example, an oil storage facility will require you to run tank wagons and will, generally be serviced by only tank wagons and so operation as a shunting puzzle requiring you to put something other than tank wagons into that siding would look inappropriate (whether this is acceptable to you or not comes under Rule 1). On the other hand, a generic factory with loading dock can reasonably accept opens, sheeted opens and vans. It may also have a small coal unloading facility as, until probably the 1960s and beyond in some cases, all factories used prodigious quantities of coal. The corrollary to this is ash disposal by mineral wagon or hopper. Vans and tankers have the advantage that they look the same loaded or unloaded and so you don't need to devise a method of adding/removing loads or, alternatively, turn a blind eye to open wagons arriving and departing in the same state. Not a definitive answer I know, but a couple of points to think about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/index.htm#avmod website is designed for N gauge modellers but might give you a few ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To some extent this will be dictated by what stock you want to run and how you intend to operate. For example, an oil storage facility will require you to run tank wagons and will, generally be serviced by only tank wagons and so operation as a shunting puzzle requiring you to put something other than tank wagons into that siding would look inappropriate (whether this is acceptable to you or not comes under Rule 1). On the other hand, a generic factory with loading dock can reasonably accept opens, sheeted opens and vans. It may also have a small coal unloading facility as, until probably the 1960s and beyond in some cases, all factories used prodigious quantities of coal. The corrollary to this is ash disposal by mineral wagon or hopper. Vans and tankers have the advantage that they look the same loaded or unloaded and so you don't need to devise a method of adding/removing loads or, alternatively, turn a blind eye to open wagons arriving and departing in the same state. Not a definitive answer I know, but a couple of points to think about. This is good advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Siddall Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 There aren't many formation options available if you're working in a small space and that's one of the more appealing variations. It's one I also considered before settling on the track layout at Croft as a basis for my current efforts. You've plan gives plenty of shunting options and it should be particularly enjoyable to operate with a sector plate. Using 'Ys' to save on formation length also makes loads of sense and is the reason you can accommodate three turnouts whereas I can only accommodate two within broadly similar baseboard dimensions :-) David Re. the Dapol 08. I've already told my three month old grandson that he can have mine and to look out for delivery some time around his eighteenth birthday :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'd be inclined to go for a dairy. I love six-wheel milk tanks, and you can have a variety of vans including NPCCS plus coal. The down side is that some of these vehicles are longer than the "typical" freight wagon. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66C Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Vans and tankers have the advantage that they look the same loaded or unloaded and so you don't need to devise a method of adding/removing loads or, alternatively, turn a blind eye to open wagons arriving and departing in the same state.The trick with open wagons is to have removable loads. If a siding is run into a building with an open back (not seen from the viewing side) then the wagon can be loaded or unloaded out of sight of spectators. A bit like this: The factory buidings are from Skytrex with added side walls and roofs. The siding into the building is accessable from the rear so that open wagons can be loaded or unloaded. Alternatively any type of wagon or van can be removed and replaced with something different. Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 While sat having my lunch I've just come up with a name for my layout. Why "O" Why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted February 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2014 One idea for a factory would be a biscuit factory.. Carrs of Carlisle was rail served (Albeit shunted by a fireless 0-4-0 when I visited in 1966) but it received coal to the boler house. Flour in vans to the goods inward and despatched goods in vans, including I believe some MOD traffic in the form of high energy biscuits for ration packs so potentially three destinations. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Siddall Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The trick with open wagons is to have removable loads. If a siding is run into a building with an open back (not seen from the viewing side) then the wagon can be loaded or unloaded out of sight of spectators. A bit like this: Factory sidings.jpg I'm am 'so' liking those little Barclays! However, a question. Why do so may 'industrial' layouts end up with the track positively hemmed in on all sides by industry when so many 'industrial' systems appear to have been at least as rural as the classic 'BLT'? Jus wundrin :-) David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm am 'so' liking those little Barclays! However, a question. Why do so may 'industrial' layouts end up with the track positively hemmed in on all sides by industry when so many 'industrial' systems appear to have been at least as rural as the classic 'BLT'? Jus wundrin :-) David Coz it's 0 Gauge David. My Cwm Bach will be rural, but hemmed in by the steep-sided valley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm am 'so' liking those little Barclays! However, a question. Why do so may 'industrial' layouts end up with the track positively hemmed in on all sides by industry when so many 'industrial' systems appear to have been at least as rural as the classic 'BLT'? Jus wundrin :-) David I suspect that part of the reason is the fact that, for the artistically challenged, it's easier to do convincing masonry walls and no backscene than it is to do earth, greenery and countryside and the need for a Constable in the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I suspect that part of the reason is the fact that, for the artistically challenged, it's easier to do convincing masonry walls and no backscene than it is to do earth, greenery and countryside and the need for a Constable in the background. I agree that urban landscape is easier to model convincingly. The cramped locations with, usually, a higher variety and density of traffic and greater frequency of movements are also well suited to the space constraints of 0 Gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm actually going to do it in the wintertime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm actually going to do it in the wintertime I plan to do the same with Cwm Bach. I actually think it is more difficult to replicate than spring or summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Actually think that it might be slightly easier as it's all white, well most of it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm am 'so' liking those little Barclays! I love the little Barclay aswell. I've got one which is waiting on me to do some work on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 This morning I've just found some of the wagons that I'll need for my layout. Heljan could you hurry up with the release of these please. Now all I've got to do is save the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
contimod65 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Found out yesterday that according to tower models website the Dapol class 08 wont be released until early 2015. also Heljan are entering the ready to run market with some modern image wagons, looking at ordering at least 2 of them for my micro layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I believe they are Heljan's first wagons, but they have of course done a number of diesel locos and a few variations of coaching stock. Tower had painted samples on display at the Bristol 0 gauge show, and, although I'm no expert on the finer details they certainly looked very much the part. They are of course all longer wheelbase vehicles so not perhaps ideal for a micro layout, but nonetheless I'll certainly be getting a couple of the class B tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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