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Just listening to the BBC midnight news, and there were interviews with passengers on a Cardiff-Portsmouth train which hit a tree near Salisbury (fortunately nobody injured). The train's been there about an hour, all this passenger seemed to be concerned about was not how to get home, but "everybody was worried about their phone batteries going flat".FFS, there's more to worry about that using mobile phone or laptop every minute of the day and night!

 

Also a report of another train hit by a tree at Mottingham on the south eastern; reports of the Tonbridge-Hastings line being closed till mid-March while they make a properly engineered repair to a damaged embankment, a repair that will last a long time!

 

Again, thanks to all those pulling together in true railway fashion to try to get the job going again.

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Just listening to the BBC midnight news, and there were interviews with passengers on a Cardiff-Portsmouth train which hit a tree near Salisbury (fortunately nobody injured). The train's been there about an hour, all this passenger seemed to be concerned about was not how to get home, but "everybody was worried about their phone batteries going flat".FFS, there's more to worry about that using mobile phone or laptop every minute of the day and night!

 

Also a report of another train hit by a tree at Mottingham on the south eastern; reports of the Tonbridge-Hastings line being closed till mid-March while they make a properly engineered repair to a damaged embankment, a repair that will last a long time!

 

Again, thanks to all those pulling together in true railway fashion to try to get the job going again.

 

 

If their mobile batteries went flat that might have to actually converse with each other - how scary is that!

 

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... nobody injured ...

 

but "everybody was worried about their phone batteries going flat"...

 

That seems perfectly reasonable to me; the mobile phone is not necessarily about idle chit-chat but is also a tool to enable you, for example, to make new travel arrangements or to book a hotel room if you get stranded. And to let people at home know that you'll be late but they shouldn't worry.

 

There are precious few payphones left and, even if there is a working one, you probably don't carry with you the phone numbers of B&Bs in the remote town in which you happen to have been dumped. Smartphone? Problem solved (well, the first part of the problem, anyway).

 

Just because lots of people seem to use them for things which feel to me to be trivial doesn't mean that a phone is not a really useful tool to have in an emergency/unplanned stranding. So I'd also be concerned if my batteries were running low. Which is why I usually carry not just a charger but a spare battery...

 

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Also a report of another train hit by a tree at Mottingham on the south eastern; reports of the Tonbridge-Hastings line being closed till mid-March while they make a properly engineered repair to a damaged embankment, a repair that will last a long time!

 

Again, thanks to all those pulling together in true railway fashion to try to get the job going again.

There was a time that would have been done within weeks, mainly by a load of blokes with flat caps and shovels.

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I was heartened to hear on Radio Devon this morning that a group of volunteers has cleared the line (a landslip, presumably) from the South Devon line twixt Staverton and Totnes in order that the steam trains can run for half term.

 

A good news story!

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I was heartened to hear on Radio Devon this morning that a group of volunteers has cleared the line (a landslip, presumably) from the South Devon line twixt Staverton and Totnes in order that the steam trains can run for half term.

 

A good news story!

 

I assume that they are talking about this http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80284-south-devon-railway-landslide/

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That seems perfectly reasonable to me; the mobile phone is not necessarily about idle chit-chat but is also a tool to enable you, for example, to make new travel arrangements or to book a hotel room if you get stranded. And to let people at home know that you'll be late but they shouldn't worry.

 

There are precious few payphones left and, even if there is a working one, you probably don't carry with you the phone numbers of B&Bs in the remote town in which you happen to have been dumped. Smartphone? Problem solved (well, the first part of the problem, anyway).

 

How ever did people manage in the days before mobile phones. I remember breaking down (in a car) on several occasions in various remote areas of the country. Didn't we manage then by simply walking to the nearest house and talking face to face to the occupants (locals).
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How ever did people manage in the days before mobile phones. I remember breaking down (in a car) on several occasions in various remote areas of the country. Didn't we manage then by simply walking to the nearest house and talking face to face to the occupants (locals).

 

Yep - I remember cutting across country at twilight heading for the nearest sign of civilization, ie: a farmhouse with a light on, hoping to God it wouldn't turn out to be a middle England version of the Bates Motel, and hoping to use their phone...

However, in the 21st century, expecting people to actually walk anywhere and ask a stranger for a favour is so, like, yesterday, Kenton...

Isn't there an iPad app to summon help if you break a fingernail now...?

Tongue firmly in cheek...

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That seems perfectly reasonable to me; the mobile phone is not necessarily about idle chit-chat but is also a tool to enable you, for example, to make new travel arrangements or to book a hotel room if you get stranded. And to let people at home know that you'll be late but they shouldn't worry.

 

There are precious few payphones left and, even if there is a working one, you probably don't carry with you the phone numbers of B&Bs in the remote town in which you happen to have been dumped. Smartphone? Problem solved (well, the first part of the problem, anyway).

 

Just because lots of people seem to use them for things which feel to me to be trivial doesn't mean that a phone is not a really useful tool to have in an emergency/unplanned stranding. So I'd also be concerned if my batteries were running low. Which is why I usually carry not just a charger but a spare battery...

 

Paul

If they excercise a little self-restraint and stop using them for trivia until they get home, the battery will last long enough for any essential use required.

 

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 How ever did people manage in the days before mobile phones. I remember breaking down (in a car) on several occasions in various remote areas of the country. Didn't we manage then by simply walking to the nearest house and talking face to face to the occupants (locals).

Loco failures also tended to occur in remote areas requiring the poor old guard to wear his legs out walking some miles to the nearest signalbox. From experience this walk usually coincided with a torrential downpour or a blizzard.

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A friend of mine was on a train on the ECML last week when the wires came down near Huntingdon, I believe due to a balloon of some sort entrangled with the wires.  It was about 4 hours before they got to Kings Cross with a 67 attached. he was appalled about the same thing that many of the passengers were panicking about their phones.  He was told that an iphone wiull run down in about 5 hours in such circumstancesd due to the number of apps that they are running.  His phone also died and he couldn't find a working payphne when he got to the Cross.

 

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He was told that an iphone would run down in about 5 hours in such circumstances due to the number of apps that they are running.

Only partly true - it actually depends on the searching for any signal (often 3/4G) So inside a metal cage (like I sit in at work) then the phone runs down in about an hour!

 

But all you have to do is switch it off to conserve battery life. Simple.

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A friend of mine was on a train on the ECML last week when the wires came down near Huntingdon, I believe due to a balloon of some sort entrangled with the wires.  It was about 4 hours before they got to Kings Cross with a 67 attached. he was appalled about the same thing that many of the passengers were panicking about their phones.  He was told that an iphone wiull run down in about 5 hours in such circumstancesd due to the number of apps that they are running.  His phone also died and he couldn't find a working payphne when he got to the Cross.

 

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That's very true - and some apps are the devil incarnate to try & stop...

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 Only partly true - it actually depends on the searching for any signal (often 3/4G) So inside a metal cage (like I sit in at work) then the phone runs down in about an hour!

 

But all you have to do is switch it off to conserve battery life. Simple.

The problem was that the complainers hadn't the sense to switch them off.

 

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There was a time that would have been done within weeks, mainly by a load of blokes with flat caps and shovels.

 

There also was a time when the repair would have consisted of said men chucking loads of waste material like ash down the bank to rebuild it - which might last for a year or so, but would guarantee it would slip again in the future. In the Heritage world both the Bluebell and the GSWR have been afected by slipping banks that were not repaired properly back in BR or big 4 days.

 

What NR are doing on the Hastings, Oxted, Botley lines and, have done at Ockley is put in place deep piles and curtain walls plus a careful backfilling with suitable, well draining materials, the net result being a bank that won't slip again.

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