Faller town house and shops

[matty1988]

Hi I have want the faller town terrace house/ shops kits. Are they made to length or each building separate so can increase length and switch corner building around. What uk era would they be and how easy to turn to uk
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['CHARD]

Could you provide a part number or catalogue reference, or link to a photo or description somewhere on line?

[shortliner]

The Faller townhouse kits - and the similar ones from other companies, are distinctively Continental - they are also HO scale  (3.5mm/ foot) instead of 4mm (OO scale) - 0.5mm per foot doesn't sound a lot, but it means that a Standard door at 6' 6" is 22.75mm instead of 26mm and narrower in proportion - figures will be smaller and less bulky too. Unless you can buy at source, you will find that the kits are likely to be more expensive as well - I suggest you look on  Faller/Noch/Busch/Kibri etc websites and see how different the continental style of buildings actually are from UK ones

[Il Grifone]

A lot of these kits are (or were) made to a smaller scale than H0 (typically around 1:100), though sold as 1:87, for some reason. The architecture is typically Teutonic (or Danish in the case of Heljan).

 

AS can be seen here

 

http://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.16/Home.html

[Joseph_Pestell]

In the sub-titles the OP has mentioned N gauge. Of course, still a bit small at 1:160 compared to 1:148 but often acceptable for scale.

 

Agreed though that apart from a few industrial and agricultural buildings and some of the bungalows, most are far too typically mittel europa to be of use on a UK layout.

 

Edit: If one can accept the small discrepancy on scale (put against backscene to add perspective?) the American manufacturers are often a better bet for reasonably British style buildings - and cheaper than the Germans.

[Adrian Wintle]

In the sub-titles the OP has mentioned N gauge. Of course, still a bit small at 1:160 compared to 1:148 but often acceptable for scale.

 

Agreed though that apart from a few industrial and agricultural buildings and some of the bungalows, most are far too typically mittel europa to be of use on a UK layout.

 

Edit: If one can accept the small discrepancy on scale (put against backscene to add perspective?) the American manufacturers are often a better bet for reasonably British style buildings - and cheaper than the Germans.

 

A lot of the 'American' kits are re-boxed European (Faller/Heljan/etc.), so you have to be careful there...

 

Adrian

[Andy Hayter]

Assuming it is this one

http://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.89/agid.1128.1196.1254/atid.1479/ecm.at/Eckhaus-mit-Nebengeb%C3%A4ude.html

 

Then yes the kit is 2 separate buildings glued together, so you can move them around.  The slight differences in scale between UK and continental N scale can work in your favour by giving a sense that the buildings are farther away than they are, if they are placed behind the railway.

[Joseph_Pestell]

Assuming it is this one

http://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.89/agid.1128.1196.1254/atid.1479/ecm.at/Eckhaus-mit-Nebengeb%C3%A4ude.html

 

Then yes the kit is 2 separate buildings glued together, so you can move them around.  The slight differences in scale between UK and continental N scale can work in your favour by giving a sense that the buildings are farther away than they are, if they are placed behind the railway.

 

It's difficult to imagine those looking right on a UK layout without a lot of work.

 

As I recall, the Faller dormers are just plonked on the roof. The building would look better without them but then there would be bits of roof tiling missing. I think that the fancy mouldings around the windows are also a separate component and the building might look better without them.

 

Chimney pots could be changed.

 

The windows themselves would certainly need changing for something more suitable, probably sashes. And I don't know what one might do with those inset balconies which are most unBritish.

 

But surely better and easier to use some British kits. There are quite a lot these days.

[rovex]

Assuming you are prepared to do a little kit bashing it can be possible to Anglicise some of the European kits intended for town/city buildings.

 

Changes I've made include:

 

replacing or stretching the ground floor so that door heights can be increased.

 

changing the roof or at the least replacing chimneys with something a little more British (usually bigger with pots)

 

Dean

[rovex]

 

But surely better and easier to use some British kits. There are quite a lot these days.

 

Trouble with British kits, is there are very few (if any) which represent the bigger town or city type buildings which you can get from Faller etc

[matty1988]

[matty1988]

theses are the photos of all faller town house/ shops how easy would it for them to be angelofiled(englished) there for modern period so what ear would they have been built.

to other question the units come as separate building you join together to so can place anyside or add others in it.

 

 

[matty1988]

ps n scale and going in a square that like copergate York so be stand alone and only sized

[matty1988]

if its to hard to brish up then whats the best thing to use for the same job

[matty1988]

this is what im trying tio acheve  for the layout but where marks and sparks is put the fenwicks and behind that the station with a row of shops running along the side of the station to hide it( also shop frounts run along a street) 

 

 

sorry 4 upside down photos will re add right way  in rush for work   

[matty1988]

sorry 4 upside down photos will re add right way  in rush for work   

 

 

[matty1988]

photos of the area I wanna copy or have feel of using faller kits the marks section id like to change with the fenwicks and have behind the station with enterance via this way and up lenthothe the station alone a road more shops so station is hidden

[matty1988]

and street I want is coppergae feel with a hiden station the feell of small street bust ansd station hidden

[shortliner]

Somehow I don't think that is going to work using continental building kits - It might be possible using foamboard and photoshopped and size corrected photos, but you will be in for a world of hard work using plastic kits

[rovex]

Hi

 

Here are some photos of models that I've built using Faller Kits (these are HO models although at least one is available in N gauge (or was).

 

 

This was going to be a more or less straight from the box job, the only alteration I was going to make was to replace the infill panels with embossed brickwork to give the impression of a stone and brick built city centre building. I say was because I had to move house and so this layout was dismantled but as the new layout will include quite a bit of city scape I'll resurrect it at some point.

 

 

This one started life as two faller Sun Hotel kits. The shop fronts and roof on each kit was discarded. Although the roof isn't too bad so long as you build more British style chimneys. I had a particular prototype in mind and this was the basis for the middle part of the building and the replacement tower domes. But you could always leave the original tower domes. Again the plaster infills were replaced with embossed brick plasticard to match the brick and terracotta originals. To give you an idea, this is the original kit

 

 

 

here behind the Kibri factory is the Faller Brewery kit. This has been chopped in half to produce a low relief building of almost twice the length. Pyramids on the roof with railings round the top help to give a more British Victorian factory look.

 

 

and finally this is my interpretation of the old Hotel at Snow Hill which started life as a Vollmer kit.

 

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Turning to Coppergate at York (I'm sorry but it always reminds me of a prison yard) Its difficult to see how the faller kits you've referenced could produce the almost factory style of architecture at Coppergate.

 

However looking at the pictures of the Faller buildings, they seem to me to have a possible Georgian feel or a Victorian interpretation of Georgian. I would generally replace the ground floors to give a more British look. perhaps convert some to banks, pubs or a post office as well. Consider replacing the roofs and providing bigger massed chimneys then the single ones which seem randomly dotted about the kits. Also perhaps considering reducing the width of some kits to give a bot more variety. Things like scale link and langleys white metal items  (I'm not sure of they do N gauge, but if not someone will do something similar) can produce those finishing touches to make a model your own.

 

Personally I'd stear clear of any kits representing half timbered buildings, unless you intend replacing all the half timbering. European half timbering looks very different to English half timbering.

 

Also consider kibri kits and possibly vollmer (although I know less about their N gauge range) with the correct choice of starter kit and some judicious alterations you should be able to produce some pleasing effects

[rovex]

Sorry I've tried to edit my last post as one of the photos (the last one) is in the wrong place, but the system or my computer isn't having it.

[matty1988]

The brewery reminds me of the Nestle york chocolate factory in different brick.

 

As for coppergate it's the idea of the shopping pedestrian area. I want the 2 none station sides to form a sort of scenic back board and the square idea is lose base on coppergate. I was thinking more small cobble paved sheets that you can buy and less prison like. The building are not to be a copy of coppergate just an idea think faller ones will make the area a higher statues area. could been town house court yard that's been converted and station added at same time(1930s-1970s times) urban regeneration. At the corners the gap would be a walk way to imply off board the the city carries on.

So if the faller is no good what's available to use kit form ether ready made or kit bash. how much bashing would be needed. If no kits suitable then what's the best way to produce something .don't mind what type of building or era or out as long it fit in a urban city in modern times and would be plarsable to what i want.

[matty1988]

I sow this eBay by Luton-lowlander it's described as 1950 department store with office card. I like it have other building form him. The problem is it like the curve the other side and some straight ones . I have emailed and had no response. Apart form that the building would be ideal for what I want.

[matty1988]

Quick eBay look shows all uk building mostly metcalf and they are all 1/2 no backs or a more a local community Shops in bac to back workers terrace housing. there high street shops are also more a small town with miss match of buildings so would not work, no back weather kit ready made or custom made.

 

Is there any one who could make me some.

[rovex]

Honestly I think some of the Faller buildings have potential for what it sounds like you want to acheive, which sounds more like the area around Huddersfield station. If you google for images on St Georges Square Huddersfield and then imagine it squeezed up a bit and of course the rather gorgeous station replaced with something more in keeping with your plans - although Walthers do an N gauge station building (933-3257) which would could be passed off as a city centre terminus structure.

 

Actually Walthers might be a useful source for you to look at.