West_riding Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yes I know it's inaccurate and the tender is an abomination....but as I can't afford the new Bachmann one I have decided to see what I can do with the Triang Deeley 3f. So far I've removed the moulded handrails, fitted new safety valves, chimney, dome, smoke box door and buffers and replaced the wheels in the tender. The body was a pound from the scrap box and I've a reliable 70s jointly mechanism to go under the body. If I can find some plans I'd like to scratch build a more accurate tender at some point, but this will have to do for now. Next job is handrails and then primer to see what state it's in after hacking around. Ed 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Loosing the skirt under the boiler would help it. IIRC there was only one 3F with a flat sided tender (though if that's not so, I'm sure someone here will know and, if I'm right, someone will be able to tell you the number!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 I agree it would look better with space under the boiler, but I must confess I lack the confidence to try cutting it out, I doubt I'd make a neat job of it. It's going to be in filthy BR black so I'm hoping that will help make it less obvious! This is the loco with handrails fitted before priming And after priming 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 43435 ran with a Deeley flat-sided tender, similar??? to the Hornby one, in the 1950's. Cheers Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks Peter, done a quick google search and found some photos to work from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 This is where I'm leaving it this weekend. Next weekend's job is numbering, glazing and weathering. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 A possible method of skirt removal that would minimise possible damage to the outer surface would be to file from the inside of the body, at first with a coarse file to remove the bulk of excess plastic and then a finer one until the remaining thin film of plastic can be pulled away. It can be left open after that or, better still, a segment of the correct diameter tube added to complete the boiler shape. As the 3F is a simple parallel boiler the latter shouldn't be too hard to find (taper boilers another matter entirely!). There. I thought someone would come up with the number for the one with a flat-sided tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 G'Day Gents I think, Ratio did a tender that you could use on a 3F, I know one sat on my 3F for 40 years. manna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 A possible method of skirt removal that would minimise possible damage to the outer surface would be to file from the inside of the body, at first with a coarse file to remove the bulk of excess plastic and then a finer one until the remaining thin film of plastic can be pulled away... Drilling through from the outside in each corner location - and ideally chain drilling between - provides better guidance to the cutting process. This used to be done with a piercing saw, washing up liquid as lubricant, lots of time and at least a couple of broken blades. Now a side cutter in a rotary tool will do it in seconds; working from the inside of course. Really worthwhile for the improvement in appearance if there is no mechanism to be concealed by the 'skirt', and would take this carefully worked on body a step further in appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 Thanks for all the comments, I've had a look at skirt removal tonight, but the chassis block will get in the way. Might have a look for another body to try it with and find a different chassis to put under it. I've had a lot of fun with this and could always use a second... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 As promised I've numbered the loco, glazed the cab, weathered it and put some coal in the tender. I'm very pleased with it and its certainly the most extensive detailing I've yet attempted. I must confess I hate putting on transfers and wimped out on the smoke box numbers, I will see if I can find an etched number plate! I would like to have another go at this one at some point and see if I can get rid of the skirt. I am also feeling confident enough now to try scratch building a body. If I can find a prototype and a suitable rtr chassis (not about to tackle making one of those yet!) Ed 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2014 excellent,really looks the part, but I would still attempt a cut out under the boiler.....really put the icing on the cake. Rgds.....Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Well done well worth the effort. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nice job, West_riding. You know, that loco wasn't really a bad piece of work for RTR when it first came out, was it? Pity about the 'orrible solid wheels, of course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Very nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted March 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2014 Bloody hell! That's really impressive! Fantastic job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Great job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 It is possible to cut-down the Fowler tender to produce something more Johnson-like. Did this over 30 years ago. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 That's an impressive conversion, really fancy another one of these now to try and better my efforts. Having a go at scratch building a L&Y class 27 next, I've really got a liking for these 0-6-0 tender engines now... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted March 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2014 Please can I ask what you used for the rivet detail on the tender? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 They're the rivets Triang moulded on tender when it left the factory 50 years ago, I'm afraid I just left them well alone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted March 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2014 Thanks! One more question if I may - where did you acquire the details like the dome, funnel and safety valves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_riding Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 They're from Craftsman Models. http://www.craftsmanmodels.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted March 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2014 Please can I ask what you used for the rivet detail on the tender? If you want to add rivets to a model, you can use transfers. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/8149-rivit-counter-alert-archer-scale-transfers/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Very nice, but isn't this a 4F? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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