DRS37409Fan Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Hi I`m Elgan from Bangor, North Wales I wanted to do a Small WCML Theme End to End Layout seen as i don`t have Much Room in My Room. So Yeah I decided i wanted to Make a Medium Depot to Hold DRS Locos and some other stuff. And i also wanted some sidings to hold Test Train Carriages or Wagons. And i have been looking for Inspiration out there and there seems to be some good stuff and i`ve got some ideas ! Oh and if you have a similar theme layout then please share as i`m always looking for Ideas ! The Size of the Layout should be around 2 X 8 Foot ish. Erm i did wan`t a Small through station but i don`t know if i`ll have room ! But seen as I`m more into DRS Class 37s, DBS Class 60s and Modern Image Diesel Locos i`m going to concentrate on Making a Small Depot / TMD first. With say 2 large sidings to fit wagons. Yeah so i have at the Moment a DRS Class 66 66412 and The Hornby DCC Mixed Freight Set. By the Summer Holidays the Layout will be on Legs and i will start scenery work. I will make a Track Plan for the Layout which i`ll upload soon. Yeah so What do you think ?? Hope you like it ! Updates coming soon ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 I`m Going to Make a 3 or 2 Lane T.M.D. with to Large Sidings for Holding Network Rail Coaches and Other Wagons. And the T.M.D. will mainly hold DRS Locos seen as that`s what i`m into. But i`ll also have some DBS and Some other Loco from Other TOCs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridangel77 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 sounds good matey. good luck with it all and im sure you will have lots of fun in the process. terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Ok so Here the Track Plan ! So I`m going to Download the AnyRail Track Plan Maker so i`ll make one and Upload it tommorow after going to Warrington to see the Lancashire Hills and Coast Railtour with the Tug and the 92. But feel free to Check out the Word one just to get an Idea of what it will be Like ! https://flic.kr/p/n71n3x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefredie Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Good start look forward to further reports David Wexford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Like the look of your plan, looking forward to your updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hi Elgan, looking very promising thus far... But i`ll also have some DBS and Some other Loco from Other TOCs TOC is a Train Operating Company, so instead for DB Schenker etc it's a FOC (Freight)... Just a small point... The plan is very creative, looks like you've done it on Word though but you can download a free trial version of Anyrail, which is a track planning software (it's very good too!). It allows you to choose the manufacturer and has all of their track for you to plan with. Also, as I take it you like 37409, Model Rail did a limited edition with it (my profile picture!)... And I got it with sound Jack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hi Elgan - Looks like it could be a good setup. My layout (very must still under construction) will be similar in concept & size (10'x2'). My advice based on the track plan above is try not to have too many dead straight parrallel tracks. I tried that with my first layout which never got finished as once I'd laid the tracks it looked boring! There are many far greater modellers than me on this site to get inspiration from, but please feel free to have a look at Laoson Valley - link in my footer. Happy modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hi Elgan, looking very promising thus far... TOC is a Train Operating Company, so instead for DB Schenker etc it's a FOC (Freight)... Just a small point... The plan is very creative, looks like you've done it on Word though but you can download a free trial version of Anyrail, which is a track planning software (it's very good too!). It allows you to choose the manufacturer and has all of their track for you to plan with. Also, as I take it you like 37409, Model Rail did a limited edition with it (my profile picture!)... And I got it with sound Jack. 37409 Is my Favorite 37, yet too See it though. and i Don`t think you can get The Model Anymore but i`m still looking out there for A DRS 37 maybe with sound but that would be expensive Oh and thanks for the the reminder about FOCs Thanks Jack. Elgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hi Elgan - Looks like it could be a good setup. My layout (very must still under construction) will be similar in concept & size (10'x2'). My advice based on the track plan above is try not to have too many dead straight parrallel tracks. I tried that with my first layout which never got finished as once I'd laid the tracks it looked boring! There are many far greater modellers than me on this site to get inspiration from, but please feel free to have a look at Laoson Valley - link in my footer. Happy modelling! I`ll think about having curves... if there`s room ! Oh and i`ll definatly take a look at Yours ! Thanks Elgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 I`ve been Measuring to see how much space i have and so on.. And the Layout will be 9ft Long and 2ft Wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWallace Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I`ve been Measuring to see how much space i have and so on.. And the Layout will be 9ft Long and 2ft Wide. That's loads of room! Just keep in mind that if you're modelling "modern image" (what ever that means these days!) then a loco is approx 1ft and most wagons/coaches are approx 1ft, therefore if you want to run a voyager into a platform, you're going to need a platform of at least 4ft. A freight service looks good if you can get up to 1 loco + 5 or 6 wagons (giving you a potential max of 7ft for a train) however if you concentrate on clay wagons or similar then you can reduce that drastically (nuclear flasks are quite often two 37s or 20s with a flask inbetween them!) Given your age, I'm guessing you're on your holidays at the moment, so if you want some ideas, http://www.carendt.com/ is an amazing website for small layout designs. If you have the time, it's also well worth learning XTrckCad - it's not as user-friendly as anyrail, but it will also allow you to have more than 50 pieces of track! HTH, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 That's loads of room! Just keep in mind that if you're modelling "modern image" (what ever that means these days!) then a loco is approx 1ft and most wagons/coaches are approx 1ft, therefore if you want to run a voyager into a platform, you're going to need a platform of at least 4ft. A freight service looks good if you can get up to 1 loco + 5 or 6 wagons (giving you a potential max of 7ft for a train) however if you concentrate on clay wagons or similar then you can reduce that drastically (nuclear flasks are quite often two 37s or 20s with a flask inbetween them!) Given your age, I'm guessing you're on your holidays at the moment, so if you want some ideas, http://www.carendt.com/ is an amazing website for small layout designs. If you have the time, it's also well worth learning XTrckCad - it's not as user-friendly as anyrail, but it will also allow you to have more than 50 pieces of track! HTH, Matt Hi Matt, Why do you say Voyager ? I`m modeling a Depot/TMD Oh and the Layout could be 10 x by 2 ish foot long but it would be slighly smaller then two wide though. I`ll take a Look at the link And Yes i am on Holidays Today, i wen`t to Warrington Bank Quay Earlier. To go Spotting I`ll check that out after giving anyrail a Try Elgan, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 First Layout Update will be screened on a 100 Subs Special Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYvbb-DgzY0 Here a Little Sneak Peak if you wanna call it that First Layout Update will be screened on a 100 Subs Special Now there's and idea......get a sound card (dcc of course) and put in a brake van- you can DJ to your hearts content whilst running a modern layout !!! Hmmmm D & B or Deep House I wonder ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DRS37409Fan Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ok so UPDATE !!!The Old Track Plan i checked is A. Kinda copying a Plan on RMWeb B. Not enough room for that C. Wouldnt fit in the Back of a Car as an Exibition Giving you some Hints there So here`s the new one, done all by Hand !! So this is the way it will be facing against the Wall if you was to look at it Birds Eye. And the wall is to where the Incline climbs up to the Road Bridge so here it is !!Arley Road T.M.D. Track Plan (2) by DRS37FAN, on Flickr But this is the way i decided to Put the Numbers labelling Everything !Arley Road T.M.D. Track Plan (1) by DRS37FAN, on FlickrSo Yeah,1. The 2 Lane TMD / Shed2. Carriage Siding / Inspection Platform3. Extra Siding for other locos from the FOCs like Colas Rail, DBS and Maybe some Yellow Special Visitors cough 97s cough4. Workers Hut5. Road / Car Park for NR or Workers6. Scenic Incline7. Scenic Area8. Road Bridge Yeah so that`s the New Plan rightAnd i was just thinking of all the ways i can Earn cash one was Sell 220008 in its box as a Train Pack Say 50-60 Quid then in around 2 Months a Trip to Alton towers is on its way which is around £45 ish quid for bus and entry then take around 20 quid with me. So i have to Decide wether to Pay £65 for an Amazing Time with Friends or.... Work on the Layout ? Hard one acutally, depends how Schools goin. Then the Legs I`m getting for the Layout to go are for Good Grades end of Year. Then Probably 65 maybe even more if i do some Chores. I can get some Track Probably Just points or Peco Track, Code 75 or 100 ? Help ??? And then the rest for another board and whatever is left i`ll use too start the incline or do all the ballasting depending on if the track is finished ? Then Xmas or Later on I`ll get a Shed :Bachmann 44-178and some Workers :Bachmann 36-051 btwa New Loco :One of these...Or 57309 (When it comes out)One of the 68, probably the one that has the Name i like most or 47853 is there are Any Left by Decmber / November Or Maybe a Colas 70Not the Respray though, a Bachmann One when...Erm Yeah that Preety Much sums us up. And some NR Test Coaches if anyone can find me some ? (Not for the NMT/HST tho) So that preety much sums up the update ?? WHAT DO YOU THINK ???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh and about the Exibition Thing Its a Maybe !!!! And i Mean Maybe !!!! If its Small enough to fit in the Back of a Car, Mums. Then why not if i check the measurements and No I`m not changing anything on the Layout so it can be an exibition i might for other reasons but not because of Exibitions. Probably a No for Now !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Looking forward to this now... cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hi Elgan - I like the latest plan - the green space / embankment gives a nice balance (i.e. not too much track all cramped in!). I've used Peco code 100 as it was slightly cheaper. Code 75 is slightly more realistic visually but by the time you've weathered & ballasted the track I think the difference is marginal. I like the look you your loco wish list. I quite fancy some DRS 37's but they seem to be silly money at the moment. I really fancy a DRS 68 when Dapol eventually release it! On a slightly different note, have you spotted DRS a having an open day at their Crewe depot on 19 July? Tickets from the DRS shop http://www.directrailservices.com/drs-club.html Happy modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hi Elgan - I like the latest plan - the green space / embankment gives a nice balance (i.e. not too much track all cramped in!). I've used Peco code 100 as it was slightly cheaper. Code 75 is slightly more realistic visually but by the time you've weathered & ballasted the track I think the difference is marginal. I like the look you your loco wish list. I quite fancy some DRS 37's but they seem to be silly money at the moment. I really fancy a DRS 68 when Dapol eventually release it! On a slightly different note, have you spotted DRS a having an open day at their Crewe depot on 19 July? Tickets from the DRS shop http://www.directrailservices.com/drs-club.html Happy modelling! I think i`ll probably be using what`s cheapest but good quality, better than Hornby ! And i don`t really mind about the Track Looking realistic. I was thinking the same thing with the DRS 37s slightly 2 expensive !!! And maybe after seeing a few reviews on the Dapol Model then its a Possibility ! And yes i have heard about the Open Day in Crewe, better get buying tickets !!! Thanks, Elgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWallace Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Looks great! Can't wait to see it develop... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 So i thought i`d make one of those things like i`ve done before saying what Kind of Things Run on the Layout from a Spotters Point of View if you know what i mean like, So the list of Trains I`ll be Running on the Layout to Start Colas Rail - Class 56 or 70 DBS - Class 60 DRS - Class 20, 37, 47, 57 and 68 And maybe some Special Visitors So Just briefly a bit about the Layout : Arley Road T.M.D. is a Small Diesel Depot in Crewe, situated just outside the station in Crewe its Partially Owned By DRS but its a Network Rail Depot where most FOCs Can hold or Refuel Locos. The Layout is 9ft by 2ft and is in two parts separated in two the TMD part is 5 by 2 ft and the Fiddle Yard is 4 By 2 Ok now the Serivces : So the Nuclear Flask Trains are all terminated and offloaded heren so the 6K41, 6K73 and 6M63 from Valley, Sellafield and Bridgewater are termainted here (one reason why its DRS owned) and they all Run as Required Same story for the Locos run from here in the Morning and come back later with Loaded Flasks The VT Thunderbirds are Kept here instead of Crewe Station itself Lots of Test Trains are started here running Arley Road TMD - Derby RTC via Holyhead or terminate here After running Derby RTC - Arley Road via York Here many locos Terminate seen as they might come for Servicing, Refueling and sometimes just holding. Oh and if ever a Intermodal Train needs to Swap Locos at Crewe at 66 or Skips will be there. So Basically the kind of services you get here are Flask Trains, Thuderbirds, Test Trains, and Light Engines Moves Hope your Looking forward coz I am ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRS37409Fan Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwSKRUprtA&feature=youtu.be What do you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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