RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 16, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Pilotman said: Excellent pictures today, David. The Deltic in C174 is D9012 CREPELLO, not D9002 (whose nameplates were about four times the size). Many thanks, I've got the caption right now. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2022 Good evening, David. That’s an excellent selection of replacement photo’s of High Dyke from 1969 and 1971. In C168, with a class 47, D1893, in green, on an Edinburgh to London Kings Cross express, in November, 1969, you have captured a great ground level shot of the locomotive and train. The Newcastle Central station photo’s from 1989 to 1991 show how the station changed over that period. In C13860, with 143325, on the 16th August, 1989, the other units visible are a class 142 and a class 101. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 17, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 Birmingham New Styret for this mornings replacements. Taken in the Octobers of 1978 and 1980 I would have been there on the way to or from the Motor Show. Birmingham New Street Class 116 Worcester to New St Oct 78 C4185 Birmingham New Street 312202 special Motor Show New St to International Oct 80 C5201 Birmingham NewStreet 310073 New St to Euston Oct 80 C5213 Birmingham New Street Class 31 Norwich to New St Oct 80 C5214 Birmingham New Street 87002 light engine Oct 80 C5215 David 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2022 Classic New Street. What's not to like? (Answers on a 200 page A4 pad, please.) 1 2 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2022 Whilst the 310 in C5213, is not exactly beautiful, it is most certainly much much better than what the cost saving measures applied to the design of the 312 in C5201 is. Kev. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 17, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) Back to Switzerland to Biel/Bienne - very often the French and German name is given together as there are roughly equal numbers of German and French speakers. Once again it is probably not thought of as a tourist destination. Biel RBDe4/4 2133 Biel to Olten 16th Aug 88 C11308 Biel Re4/4ii 11155 ecs 16th Aug 88 C11310 Biel Ae3/6i 10711 northbound freight and Re4/4ii 11155 16th Aug 88 C11313 The Ae3/6i was about 60 years old when I took this photo. Biel Ae3/6i 10699 16th Aug 88 C11317 Again 60 or more years old at the time. Biel Re4/4ii 11233 to Basel16th Aug 88 C11321 Biel Re4/4ii 11254 to Romanshorn 16th Aug 88 C11322 David Edited December 17, 2022 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2022 Good evening, David. That’s a superb selection of replacement photo’s of Birmingham New Street from October 1978 and 1980. In C5214, with an unidentified class 31, on a Norwich to New Street terminating service, in October, 1980, the weathering will be of help to modellers, including the very slightly askew dominoes in the headcode box - unless I’m seeing things. The lastest Switzerland photo’s, of Biel/Bienne, from the 16th August, 1988, are an excellent set, and convey the way the tree covered mountains dominate everything including the railway. In C11317, at Biel, with Ae3/6i, 10699, the locomotive looks great in the three quarter portrait shot. It’s hard to believe it was 60 or so years old at the time of the photo’, it was clearly well looked after. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Beamish Museum - The Living Museum of the North - today, all but one of the photos are from 1980. There have been a lot of changes since the photos were taken. They show Rowley station,the pit village and the pit buildings. Beamish Rowley Station NER 876 Aug 80 J7130 Beamish Rowley Station NER 876 Aug 80 J7131 Beamish Rowley Station Consett Iron Co crane Aug 80 J7136 Beamish Rowley 3rd Sept 87 C9127 Beamish Pit Village Replica Locomotion No 1 Aug 80 J7143 Beamish Pit Village R&H 4wdm and Locomotion replica Aug 80 J7147 Beamish Pit Village colliery tub cage Aug 80 J7150 Beamish Pit Village colliery tub Aug 80 J7151 David Edited December 18, 2022 by DaveF 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 Today's replacements are from Stainforth and Helwith Bridge north of Settle on the Settle and Carlisle line. They were taken during 1966 and 1967. Stainforth Class 25 D7571 down goods Dec 67 J1190 Stainforth Class 45 D12 up Thames Clyde Dec 67 J1191 Helwith Bridge LMS Class 5 45481 up goods Sept 66 J628 j Helwith Bridge Class 25 D7550 up goods Sept 66 J627 Helwith Bridge BR 9F 92076 up goods Dec 66 J713 Helwith Bridge Class 25 up goods Dec 67 J1193 David 57 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2022 I'm not sure how I've done this but this afternoon's photos are once again from Switzerland, this time from Interlaken Ost. They were al taken on 12th August 1988. At Interlaken Ost there is standard gauge BLS line from Spiez which also carries through SBB workings. The is also the metre Gauge SBB Brünig line from Lüzern which terminates there. Lastly there is the metre gauge BOB (Berner Oberland Bah)n to Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen. The Sensetalbahn trains do not usually appear there, the one in the photo was on a special working as part of the BLS 75th anniversary celebrations that summer. Interlaken Ost Deh4/6 904 12th Aug 88 C10831 a metre gauge Brünig line loco Interlaken Ost G3/4 208 preserved on a special working 12th Aug 88 C10869 Interlaken Ost RAe2/4 "Red Arrow" 1001 special working 2th Aug 88 C10878 built in the 1930s Interlaken Ost Senesetalbahn BDe4/6 102 Interlaken West to Ost12th Aug 88 C10886 Interlaken Ost BOB ABeh4/4 307 Interlaken to Grindelwald12th Aug 88 C10891 David 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 J1191 is a very good (and fairly rare) shot of D12 which may be useful for modellers. At the time, as built, it had split headcode boxes and connecting gangway doors - only D11 to D15 of the production Class 45s had those fitted (as per Class 44). From D16 onwards, the earlier-built examples continued to be fitted with split headcode boxes but with solid plated fronts, later giving way to central (but still split) headcode panels and, finally, a single headcode panel. When the Class 45s were refurbished by Derby Works, in the late 1960s, D11-D15 had the nose-ends refitted with the single, central headcode panel that had, by then, become standard. It's not often that we see images of this quintet in their original condition. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted December 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, 35A said: J1191 is a very good (and fairly rare) shot of D12 which may be useful for modellers. At the time, as built, it had split headcode boxes and connecting gangway doors - only D11 to D15 of the production Class 45s had those fitted (as per Class 44). From D16 onwards, the earlier-built examples continued to be fitted with split headcode boxes but with solid plated fronts, later giving way to central (but still split) headcode panels and, finally, a single headcode panel. When the Class 45s were refurbished by Derby Works, in the late 1960s, D11-D15 had the nose-ends refitted with the single, central headcode panel that had, by then, become standard. It's not often that we see images of this quintet in their original condition. No class 45s were built with the single central head code panel, they were all later alterations starting with the Brush refurbishments in 1965. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2022 Good evening, David. What a fantastic set of photo’s of the Beamish Museum from 1980 and 1987. The first two photo’s of Beamish Rowley Station, with NER, 876, from August, 1980, are excellent photo’s of the sole surviving NER class C, later LNER/BR class J21. The replacement photo’s of Stainforth and Helwith Bridge, north of Settle, on the Settle and Carlisle line, are an excellent selection. What a superb sight in J713, at Helwith Bridge, with BR 9F, 92076, on an up goods train, in December, 1966. No way can steam on a preserved line recapture that atmospheric, steamy scene, in wet weather. The latest Switzerland photo’s are again a superb set, of the station at Interlaken Ost as on the 12th August, 1988. All are so atmospheric and in C10878, with RAe2/4 "Red Arrow", 1001, on a special working, you have a scene with the somewhat unusual looking 1930’s electric railcar and such a typical Swiss backdrop of a tree covered mountain, and those beautiful buildings. A delightful composition. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 6 hours ago, stovepipe said: No class 45s were built with the single central head code panel, they were all later alterations starting with the Brush refurbishments in 1965. Correct. I was referring to Peaks, in general. Sorry if that wasn't clear. It was during Class 46 delivery that the single panel replaced the split central (as I'm sure you know!). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Some of the group of photos in the pennines make me shiver to look at them, it looks wet snd dank. As a steam spotter, aged 10, the second worst insult you could hurl at another spotter was to label him a "summerony", Lincolnshire for Summer only, ie: fair weather spotter🙂 Dave would not have been so labelled, nor his dad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2022 Manchester Victoria for today's replacements, taken when I lived there in my student days. 3 from 1969, 2 from 1971. I am sure some of you will recognise the photos, some I think have been elsewhere on RMWeb and they are quite popular on flickr. Manchester Victoria Class 46 D147 in green Newcastle to Liverpool Oct 69 C160 Manchester Victoria Trans Pennine dmu Hull to Liverpool Oct 69 C163 Manchester Victoria Platform Barriers Oct 69 C164 Manchester Victoria Class 40 D373 green eastbound goods, Class 25 5200, Class 101 at front of Liverpool to Hull 22nd May 71 C613 Manchester Victoria Class 40 D373 eastbound goods 22nd May 71 C614 David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, JeffP said: Some of the group of photos in the pennines make me shiver to look at them, it looks wet snd dank. As a steam spotter, aged 10, the second worst insult you could hurl at another spotter was to label him a "summerony", Lincolnshire for Summer only, ie: fair weather spotter🙂 Dave would not have been so labelled, nor his dad. Dad, Mum and I always found that getting out at weekends and holidays was a very good way of getting right away from work and reducing stress levels. We found that the weather didn't matter. When Mum and Dad reached their 70s they were a bit more careful about bad weather. I am just beginning to find that when it is cold now I wrap up much better and think twice about driving if it is really bad - at one time if there was only about 5" of snow I just drove to work as usual, now that I have been retired for some time I am content to have a shortish walk and then look at it though the window. David Edited December 19, 2022 by DaveF 2 3 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, DaveF said: Manchester Victoria for today's replacements, taken when I lived there in my student days. 3 from 1969, 2 from 1971. I am sure some of you will recognise the photos, some I think have been elsewhere on RMWeb and they are quite popular on flickr. Manchester Victoria Class 46 D147 in green Newcastle to Liverpool Oct 69 C160 The 46 is interesting, it is on the through line not the platform line, Exchange closed in May 69 so if it is Oct 69 it's not heading there to stop, so it is something other than a Newcastle - Liverpool? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2022 That was a very long platform and there was a cross-over (just in front of the TP124 in the next photo) that allowed trains to "overtake" parked DMUs and then come into that platform, about half way to Exchange! It was a regular thing. Kev. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 19, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2022 It has headcode 1Z38 which would suggest a special working (possibly from off-region). Excellent set of pics Dave, capturing the transition era and a great 'human-interest' shot C164 - worth taking a while to have a good look at all those incidental details. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2022 This afternoon we are on the ECML between Newcastle and Morepth at Damdykes and around Clifton level crossing. Damdykes Class 253 up 22nd Jan 84 C6397 Damdykes May 93 J13838 Damdykes DVT down train running in reverse formation 27th Dec 95 C20705 Possibly it had arrived at Newcastle over the High Level Bridge which causes the train to be reversed. Clifton LC Class 91 up ex pass 10th April 96 C20864 going away Clifton LC Class 91 down ex pass 10th April 96 C20870 David 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, SHMD said: That was a very long platform and there was a cross-over (just in front of the TP124 in the next photo) that allowed trains to "overtake" parked DMUs and then come into that platform, about half way to Exchange! It was a regular thing. Kev. Well so there was! In all my time stood at the east end of Victoria I do not remember a train not entering the platform any later than the very start of the platform. I remember trains stopping before the escape route to salford, but never anything coming in on the through lines and moving across after the Salford Crossovers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 What did the sign say it is in the field .first photo c6397 dont see many of them in the UK .Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Well so there was! In all my time stood at the east end of Victoria I do not remember a train not entering the platform any later than the very start of the platform. I remember trains stopping before the escape route to salford, but never anything coming in on the through lines and moving across after the Salford Crossovers. Living in Stalybridge, I used my "Saver7" to Bash the odd Whistler, Duffs, a few Deltics, Peaks, some Goyles, more Duffs - whenever I could, and just occasionally the entrance to that platform was occupied resulting in using that crossover to land at Man Vic. Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 That brings back memories! That could be a Newcastle or Morpeth S&T van! Our Darlington south S&T fault team vans were F275 AUB & F260 AUB. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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