Peaks into Glasgow

[ian b]

Hello! As possible research for a model does anyone know of any appearances (preferably regular ones!) by 45s into Queen St between 84 & 88? The only possibility I can think of may have been on the Scarborough but it's purely theoretical and I don't know if it happened!

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Ian B

[108]

I think there was a ban on some 1Co classes in the 80's into Queen Street after the derailment of a Class 40 which caused chaos during the rush hour around 83/4

 

Edited for speeellliing

[Guest B Exam]

Peaks and Class 40s were banned from Glasgow Central not Queen St due to their bogies having a tendency to derail.

 

Not heard of any Peaks working into Queen St in that period that the OP has asked for. They were pretty rare at any time during their careers. 40s on the other hand were quite regular at Queen St until around 1983 when numbers dwindled so low they started becoming quite rare north of the border.

[108]

Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected. Old age catching up at last.

[royaloak]

Peaks were rare in Scotland simply because they normally worked much further South (Gatesheads 46s excepted) than that.

['CHARD]

Peaks were rare in Scotland simply because they normally worked much further South (Gatesheads 46s excepted) than that.

Whilst this was generally true in the latter part of their careers, Peaks were actually very common in Scotland from 1962/3 and through the seventies.

 

The Waverley 1S64 and 1M91 (summer T/T) and 1S65/ 1M01 (winter) were booked for Class 45 traction, and Class 46s filled in regularly. That was once billed as the Thames-Forth, and its counterpart the Thames-Clyde was also booked Class 45 via the GSW and into Glasgow Central. The vast majority of Class 45 and 46 worked the WR to Edinburgh, possibly all of both classes worked along the GSW at one time or another.

 

Gateshead's fleet of 46s worked regularly as far as Aberdeen including the last express fish traffic to run via the East Coast. Tyne Yard to Millerhill freight traffic was also regularly powered by 46s.

 

http://www.derbysulzers.com/46xxxferrydensign81.jpg

[pH]

Peaks and Class 40s were banned from Glasgow Central not Queen St due to their bogies having a tendency to derail.

 

This is meant as a genuine question, I'm not being sarcastic - when were Peaks and Class 40s banned from Glasgow Central? Class 40s were what replaced steam on express passenger service between Central and English destinations in the early 1960s. Peaks weren't as common, but were daily visitors on 'Midland' line services after the closure of St. Enoch's in 1966. I gradually lost interest after 1968, and moved away from Scotland in 1971 - did the ban happen after that?

[Fat Controller]

This is meant as a genuine question, I'm not being sarcastic - when were Peaks and Class 40s banned from Glasgow Central? Class 40s were what replaced steam on express passenger service between Central and English destinations in the early 1960s. Peaks weren't as common, but were daily visitors on 'Midland' line services after the closure of St. Enoch's in 1966. I gradually lost interest after 1968, and moved away from Scotland in 1971 - did the ban happen after that?

The ban was a fairly late occurence, I believe; perhaps early 1980s.

['CHARD]

Peaks and Class 40s were banned from Glasgow Central not Queen St due to their bogies having a tendency to derail.

According to Derby Sulzers, in 1980 'The year began with ten of Eastfield’s Class 25’s being sent to Haymarket in exchange for a like number of Class 27/1 & 2’s, whose duties had been taken over by the Class 47/7’s on the Edinburgh - Glasgow service. Also in the Glasgow area, Class 40 & 45’s were banned from Central station due to problems with their ability to derail on the curves in the station.'

 

I saw my penultimate 46 (46055) on the Thames-Clyde in 1978 at Central.