AliR53 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Has anyone put figures in a Lima Mk1 carriage? I would like to do this, but other than prising the roof off I cannot see any other way of getting access to the interior. I don't really want to chance ruining a carriage by attempting it. Is there a way? Any advice appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 The only way into these coaches is by removing the roof as the sides, ends and floor are all moulded in one piece. From what I remember, the roof is held in place by clips that can be seen inside the end gangways, the glazing is part of the roof moulding and slides up with the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I agree with giz . But the clips can brake off when you push them in to remove the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliR53 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 Thanks chaps. Just had a go and spot on, the roof comes off with the glazing. Just need to be careful pushing the clips in. Crompton you have reminded me of one of my favourite diesals from my spotting days, which ended with steam in 1968. Of the 98 only 12 evaded me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Correct the roof clips off eventually!! Do not leave LIMA coaches in direct sunlight for too long, they tend to melt! ( happened to me years back, Layout in a garage and the sun shone through a small window the glass was not even clear glass) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I fitted flush glazing to a Lima Mk1. This involved removing the roof and glazing as described and then sawing off the glazing and replacing it with Flush Glaze. The instructions told me how to remove the glazing. It is much easier to buy a Bachmann or Hornby Mk1 coach which already has flush glazing. I did not put any figures in this coach but on Hornby coaches I have used 1/87 scale painted figures as they fit in the coaches more easily than 1/76 scale figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliR53 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've bought the 1:87 figures. You will have to explain what flush glaze is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzgresleyfan Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've bought the 1:87 figures. You will have to explain what flush glaze is though. http://www.sefinecast.co.uk/Flushglaze%20Windows/Flushglaze%20Windows%20Table.htm Great product, highly recommended. No connection to trader; satisfied customer only; etc, etc, etc! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliR53 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 I have a Lima 'blood & custard' full brake which has torpedo vents which are very shallow mouldings. I am going to remove them and replace with roof fittings from MJT range. Do you think I should replace with Torpedo ventilators or would one of the other versions be more prototypical? Period would be say mid 1950's, but surviving into late 50's early 60's. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hello AliSome Lima coaches with Flush Glazing. If you have lots of patience you can use the existing glazing to hold the flush glazing in place without the need to use any glue - a kind of double glazing!These coaches longs since departed were fitted with the whitemetal buffers and were close coupled by removing the hooks and cutting one side of the coupling bar to make hooks.RegardsRay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I have a Lima 'blood & custard' full brake which has torpedo vents which are very shallow mouldings. I am going to remove them and replace with roof fittings from MJT range. Do you think I should replace with Torpedo ventilators or would one of the other versions be more prototypical? Period would be say mid 1950's, but surviving into late 50's early 60's. Thanks in advance The most common type of vent on Mark 1s was the ridged dome, which is what I think the Lima one is supposed to represent. This is MJTs version: http://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt/2942.php Others had shell vents and later some had the scalloped dome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliR53 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well the rake of coaches is coming along, but I'm looking for some guidance on the roof vents. I have HMRS (Parkin) Mark 1 Coaches Supplement and there is a side elevation and plan of an unclassed restaurant diagram 23, which is a very similar layout to the Lima Restaurant. But there is no plan of the roof so I cannot determine where the vents are. There is also a colour photograph on the back cover but still cannot quite position the vents from this. Can anyone point me in the right direction or a previous thread or roof plan image. many thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hello Ali Some Lima coaches with Flush Glazing. If you have lots of patience you can use the existing glazing to hold the flush glazing in place without the need to use any glue - a kind of double glazing! These coaches longs since departed were fitted with the whitemetal buffers and were close coupled by removing the hooks and cutting one side of the coupling bar to make hooks. Regards Ray When I did mine to close coupling I did it by completely cutting off one coupling loop and removing the hook, and leaving the other as standard. This is how it came out These are the coaches I pulled together from various sources and are undergoing preliminary work for a 4TC conversion. I also have plans to use sprung gangways, but that comes later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thanks Alex for the work in progress. I love the old Intercity livery - many happy memories of lots of train journies. I also have plans to use sprung gangways, but that comes later. I have been very pleased with simple gangways made from black cartridge paper. I first came across the idea in an article in a 1960s Railway Modeller. I have used the same basic idea for a number of different coach types - I guess you will have seen this Post. Regards Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward66 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Don't forget the Lima coaches have undersize wheels, it's quite an easy mod to replace the bogies with Bachmann units although they are considerably more expensive than they used to be [what isn't!] Edward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliR53 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 I would be grateful if someone could tell me what the ventilator spacing from the centre line of typical Mk1 corridor stock. I know that on non-gangwayed stock the standard spacing is 1ft 3/4 of an inch. Is it the same on corridor coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Thanks Alex for the work in progress. I love the old Intercity livery - many happy memories of lots of train journies. I have been very pleased with simple gangways made from black cartridge paper. I first came across the idea in an article in a 1960s Railway Modeller. I have used the same basic idea for a number of different coach types - I guess you will have seen this Post. Regards Ray Yes I have seen that one. I really need to get out and get some cartridge paper, I might well wait until after the move as then i can set up a proper modelling table. In the meantime I get odd bits and pieces here and there and store them. I think looking at that has also made me decide i need some Collett coaches as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Thanks Alex Yes .... i need some Collett coaches as well... I wonder what livery? Regards Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2014 Some mods I made to my old fleet of Lima coaches (now all sold off, so no pics I'm afraid): I added rainstrips from Microstrip (fixed along the top of the body immediately under the join with the roof) and replaced the bogies with Hornby Mk1s, which at the time were available very cheaply as spares. (Replica bogies are probably a viable alternative these days).This had the effect of both reducing the overscale ride height and coupling the coaches much closer. I also fitted flush glazing, ABS white metal corridor connections which improved the appearance of the ends, and Microstrip footboards under the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I replaced the undernourished Lima bogies with their small pizza cutter wheels with Bachmann commonwealth and BR1 bogies. Just drill out the pivot hole, tap M5 and screw the bachy bogies on. Lifts the look of the coach totally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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