Rail-Online Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Hi, I am trying to date a photo taken by the late Jim Carter who was notorious for not recording details of date or even location of his 1960-70 shots. On this one of Winwick (just south of Winwick Jcn box) the distant appears to be being replaced with colour lights -see photo. Can some helpful soul confirm a date for this? Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Just a guess but would dating when that model of VW combies were in production help? ie split screen or bay window could help make the difference between 1960s or 1970s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's Winwick Quays up slow and up fast distant viewed from Watery Lane bridge - I think the slow line remained as a semaphore until the end (1972) or certainly near to the end. The colour light looks to be an LMS structure, however it may be the old semaphore with a colour light head, but it was certainly a colour light by the mid 1960s from other photos I've seen and I think it was probably converted in the 1950s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 If its the shot im thinking of its a colour shot and its hauled by a black 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2014 Hi, I am trying to date a photo taken by the late Jim Carter who was notorious for not recording details of date or even location of his 1960-70 shots. On this one of Winwick (just south of Winwick Jcn box) the distant appears to be being replaced with colour lights -see photo. Can some helpful soul confirm a date for this? Cheers Tony All I can say is that it is very definitely pre MAS (which was commissioned in September 1972). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 If its the shot im thinking of its a colour shot and its hauled by a black 5 No its not a colour shot, but is hauled by 45081 the one that had the self weighing tender in the mid 1960s. Jim took many many shots here - all superbly in focus and well composed. The VW campers were right behind the tender so no more details are available. From Beasts info it looks like I was wrong and it is not a replacement colour light. Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well the VW campers are new. The T1 was produced until 1967. So it can be no later than that. Edit- And no rear window, so 1964 or later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Don't forget that the LMS put a lot of effort into installing colour light distants on the main lines so this signal could easily be pre-war. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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