simon47603 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Excellent footage from a Class 60 cab. From Margam Yard to Carmathen. Interesting to see at the 15 min mark as the train pass Briton Ferry is a Freightliner Coal Train with a Colas 66 on the front! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQaKq5yiZc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Fascinating - have commuted along parts of this trip a while ago, but the perspective from the can is totally different! Thank you for posting it. If it's not compromising you to ask, how on earth do you wangle cab rides in this day and age? Cheers Alastair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Having read the Youtube comments, ignore my question as I realise it's not your video Simon, but thanks for bringing it to the Forum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2014 The colas train would most likely have been a redcar to port talbot working, thats all i can think of cola wise down that way, its definatly 'our' train as the wagons are unbranded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Redcar to Port Talbot - what traffic is that Jim? Intrigued as to why it ends up in Briton Ferry yard (or what's left of it - sad sight!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2014 Redcar to Port Talbot - what traffic is that Jim? Intrigued as to why it ends up in Briton Ferry yard (or what's left of it - sad sight!) Redcar coal import terminal to Port Talbot. As Jim says, Colas have a number of ex-Freightliner HHA's on coal duty. There are a handful carrying Colas branding. Although the front wagon still carries FL markings......... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks Mick. So if that's coal for the Tata works, why does it run to BF yard? Cheers Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Interesting video!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2014 Redcar to Port Talbot - what traffic is that Jim? Intrigued as to why it ends up in Briton Ferry yard (or what's left of it - sad sight!)I dont know the area at all or the way the train runs but did wonder what it was doing so far west, possibly running round or stabling? There is only 1 wagon with colas branding/uk coal and thats pretty much all come off now, the freightliner branded wagon is a fairly new addition to the train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon47603 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Mr Evan's has a number of cabride video's. It is easier to just post a link to his Youtube Channel than posting individual links. http://m.youtube.com/user/reliance1047 On the Colas Coal train, not a surprise to see a Colas Loco in Briton Ferry Yard as they are weekly visitors on the Logs. A couple of possibilities: 1: It was going to Briton Ferry yard to stable overnight. 2: It was going to stable overnight in the Log Sidings at Baglen Bay And the wildcard theory: 3: Was it going up to Onllywn to load? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Most likely stabling in Briton Ferry yard; they're Network- Rail controlled, rather than Margam Knuckle Yard, which is DBS territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon47603 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Brian Daft question, are Briton Ferry sidings long enough for a modern coal train? Just a personal thought, I wouldn't be a happy bunny, if I got a bill off NR for overnight stabling when I have a yard round the corner! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Brian Daft question, are Briton Ferry sidings long enough for a modern coal train? Just a personal thought, I wouldn't be a happy bunny, if I got a bill off NR for overnight stabling when I have a yard round the corner! Simon I would imagine they are long enough; difficult to tell from Quail. I'm not sure if NR would bill them for overnight stabling like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Forgive my ignorance, but surely this has to run via Margan Knuckle to gain entrance to the Steelworks, so I don't quite get why the wouldn't run straight there? Unless "foreign" trains have a specified slot to access the yard and have to stable somewhere until that point? Sorry - I'm not 100% au fait with modern railfreight practices so would be grateful if someone could explain! Cheers Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2014 Forgive my ignorance, but surely this has to run via Margan Knuckle to gain entrance to the Steelworks, so I don't quite get why the wouldn't run straight there? Unless "foreign" trains have a specified slot to access the yard and have to stable somewhere until that point? Sorry - I'm not 100% au fait with modern railfreight practices so would be grateful if someone could explain! Cheers Al There are all sorts of weird and wonderful workings to avoid unnecessary run-rounds or yards and sidings that belong to other FOC's. For example, when the Fidler's Ferry-Newbiggin gypsum trains were operated by GBRf, they had to travel from Latchford sidings at Warrington to Ellesmere Port to run round because the nearer run-round at Walton Junction sidings is a DBS facility. It's not unknown for the Colas operated empty log train to travel from Carlisle to Hellifield, run-round and then back north to Ribblehead to shunt into the quarry sidings because there's no suitable run round at Ribblehead. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderHead Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Great stuff. I really hope the sheds have some kind of seat suspension, that ride could shake your fillings loose! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2014 There are all sorts of weird and wonderful workings to avoid unnecessary run-rounds or yards and sidings that belong to other FOC's. For example, when the Fidler's Ferry-Newbiggin gypsum trains were operated by GBRf, they had to travel from Latchford sidings at Warrington to Ellesmere Port to run round because the nearer run-round at Walton Junction sidings is a DBS facility. It's not unknown for the Colas operated empty log train to travel from Carlisle to Hellifield, run-round and then back north to Ribblehead to shunt into the quarry sidings because there's no suitable run round at Ribblehead. Cheers, Mick Similarly back in fastline days when running into daw mill from nuneaton we had to go all the way to saltley to run round (about 10 miles away) rather than using whitacre jn (2 miles away) but the reason for that was there was a public footpath that ran across the centre of the loop and when a train parked there to run round the local nimby would phone up and complain that he couldnt use the footpath, They must have monitored the path useage as its now closed! Ive also had to run round in barrow hill to head back towards derby after leaving ratcliffe as toton was full/closed/whatever, a full 50ish mile diversion (and another run round in derby to get into chaddesden yard) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Forgive my ignorance, but surely this has to run via Margan Knuckle to gain entrance to the Steelworks, so I don't quite get why the wouldn't run straight there? Unless "foreign" trains have a specified slot to access the yard and have to stable somewhere until that point? Sorry - I'm not 100% au fait with modern railfreight practices so would be grateful if someone could explain! Cheers Al I think DBS may be obliged to keep one through track clear in Knuckle Yard to allow access/egress for other operators' trains to Tata's sidings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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