Model Scenery Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 #1 Introducing Marton Inspiration for a model railway can come in many forms including: an image, a real location, a friend, an exhibition or a magazine article. Hornby Magazine created a unique type of inspiration in September 2013 with the launch of their series Operation Build It. This series set out to inspire all types of modellers but specifically new and returning. Its aim was to be small in order to be completed successfully whilst having a track plan interesting for the modeller to operate. Receiving my copy of the October 2013 issue this was the perfect layout for me. I have never created a model railway before not even a small diorama with a line of track. Nearly a year on from the beginning of the series I am setting out to reproduce this layout with the hope that it will be successful. Following the articles published in the magazine I will develop the layout, from a bare baseboard to a working model railway, and sharing my progress with you on here as unfortunately there is a limited amount of people showcasing their creation of this layout. My layout will be called Marton and will be modelled on the Great Western railway with GWR stock running on it, including a pannier and a castle; with the occasional 1970s and 1980s era stock making an appearance, including a class 50 and class 105. Marton will make use of the full 6ft by 2ft track plan supplied by Hornby Magazine and the fantastic Scalescenes kits supplied. DCC operation will be used throughout the layout allowing for full operational capability and interest, possibly with the introduction of DCC sound. Storage will be sourced through the use of a cassette fiddle yard as this is best suited to the handling of stock where the 4ft by 2ft baseboard is located. Currently the basis for Marton has being constructed with a 6mm plywood top baseboard braced and supported by a leg at each corner. The fiddle yard baseboard has being constructed in the same way. Both baseboards are securely connected through the use of two nuts and bolts to the right of the layout where the two baseboards join. Separating the scenic baseboard from the fiddle yard baseboard is the use of a 6mm plywood backscene surrounding the layout at nearly 30cm tall and painted a basic light sky blue. Above the layout is a small fluorescent light which finishes off the layout nicely allowing development to be easily performed and provide an ideal natural light for the finished layout. The layout as it currently stands can be seen in the image below. The next stage for Marton is the track laying process which has being completed before but has to relayed due to it being to close to the front of the baseboard and a gap too small between the station and goods yard. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 #2 Track laying part one Over the last few days laying of the track has being completed and follows the plan provided in the October 2013 issue of Hornby Magazine. The layout consists of four sections: the station, crossover at the station, the goods yard and the factory siding. Hornby Magazine used Peco track components throughout their version however, I have opted to use Hornby points instead of Peco's. The reason for this is because I already had the correct points for the layout as Hornby components but not Peco. So to reduce costs of purchasing Peco points I used the Hornby points that way another advantage is that they are being used instead of sitting in a box. Of course the Hornby points are not as realistic as Peco points; however, they suit my requirements. Due to the use of Hornby points Marton's track plan has slightly altered where in some cases the opposite handed points have being used to the ones shown on the supplied track plan. Before track laying could commence the baseboard was painted brown to provide as an Earth colour for the layout, Where if any damage was to occur to any scenery bare wood would not be exposed. Additionally, the paint protects the wood from dampness, which is an advantage as the layout is housed in a loft, which prevents the baseboard from warping. Next the track was loosely laid for testing and then cut using Xuron track cutters and needle files to smooth the cut. Once satisfied with its appearance cork was cut around the track and glued down with wood glue. The benefits of using cork is that it provides the ballast with a shoulder, therefore, increasing realism and also reduces sound created from the movement of locomotives and stock. Once dried the actual track laying could begin. Using a drill holes where drilled through the track, cork and baseboard in order to easily receive the Hornby track pins. The track pieces where then joined with Hornby metal joiners, as I had difficulty putting the joiners on the Peco track, and Peco insulted rail joiners. Next the pins where hammered in with a bolt resting on top of the pin to prevent the hammer from damaging the track. Therefore, completing the track laying process. In the image below is the layout's current state with it's cork and track laid apart from the straight section to the right of the layout, which will be laid once a hole is cut out of the backscence to allow trains from/to the fiddle yard. Next the layout will be wired for DCC operation. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 #3 a brief progress update (30th August 2014) Wiring of the layout has commenced during the last week and is nearly completed. The wiring of the layout has being performed in line with the wiring diagram supplied in the Hornby Magazine November 2013 issue. However, following this diagram posed a problem for me as the cross over points caused a problem for the top station line where it was not recieving power. I tried various other locations for the power feeds around this section of track and the points but the problem of no power still remained. Therefore, I have now removed the cross over points completely which thankfully has resolved the power problem. Despite resolving this problem the wiring of the layout is not quite complete. Due to the removal of the points other sections of track around them and the replacement track for the points these need to be pinned down again. But unfortunately the drill bits I used to drill a hole through the track, cork and baseboard to allow easy pinning of the track pins accurately have broken. Therefore, I have purchased a new set of drill bits that are being delivered. Not all track laying is complete because the back scene still requires a hole to be cut which must be done soon to allow that section of track to be laid and testing of the entire layout to commence. Once the track has being laid, wired and tested a progress report on that will be posted hopefully in the next couple of days. All of the layouts buildings have now being completed and information on these will be posted later on today. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 #4 The layout's buildings Over the last couple of weeks the buildings for the layout have being constructed. Each of the buildings for the Hornby Magazine Operation Build It layout where produced exclusively by Scalescenes for Hornby Magazine. Each of the buildings where included in the November 2013 - March 2014 issues of the magazine for free, along with detailed step by step guides to construct the buildings as normally included with the Scalescenes kits which makes the construction of the layout easier for beginners and returners to the hobby. In the image below is the completed buildings for the layout which consist of the signal box, station building, goods store, goods office, platform shelter, hut and the factory. Each of the buildings have being constructed in line with the step by step guides included in the magazine. I am also a beginner at card kits but despite this I am very satisfied with how the buildings have turned out which brings more confidence to a beginner of layout building even though I am messy with the glue. Firstly, it is the signal box. I am very pleased with how this has turned out and is probably the best constructed, probably because this was the last one of the buildings so is of a higher quality. The construction of this kit was easy to follow and probably the hardest part was the construction of the steps outside of the porch, which does require a steady hand and a pair of tweezers. The signal box is equipped with full interior details on the wall along with a lever print on the floor. I did have the option to add point rodding but I am satisfied with the interior appearance so have not purchased any rodding. For the colour scheme of the building I have chosen green in line with the GWR. Next is the station building. Again I am pleased with how this has turned out although a little disappointed with the amount of glue on the exterior of the building so may construct this again. Again I opted for the green colour scheme. This is a pleasing kit in appearance and construction with a different front (image 1) facing the roadside and the back facing the platform (image 2) Thirdly, is the goods store which will be familiar to a lot of you as it was a kit which was offered for free on the Scalescenes kit a few years ago, although in a different exterior design. This was easy to construct along with a pleasing design which produced a high quality appearance once completed. Next is a set of three buildings which are the goods store, platform shelter and plate layer hut. These three buildings where the easiest of the layout's buildings which is due to the small size of the buildings which lead to a simple design and construction. Lastly, is the factory building which is the largest of the layout's buildings. A large amount of people were not satisfied with the kit due to publishing constrains set by Hornby Magazine. This did pose construction problems but once these were realized the construction was easily completed in the best way. This is a unique building as the layout is influenced by the building where it has its own siding which enable a locomotive and wagons to stop in front of the building and to allow goods to be loaded and unloaded from/in the factory via it's platform at the front of the building. Although not strictly a building this is an infrastructure for the layout which is the bridge which will be located at the right of the layout to disguise the scenic boards join to the fiddle yard baseboard. I actually purchased the wrong texture for the bridge as I thought this was the texture that matched the building's stone texture. Despite this though it adds variation to the layout and gives the effect that it was either built after or before the railway buildings. Below is a plan that I will be following of where the buildings (the red shapes) will be roughly located on the layout. Overall I am very pleased with how the buildings and the bridge have turned out. As I constructed the buildings my construction skills with card kits improved which is evident in the signal box which in my opinion is the highest quality due to it being the last model that was constructed out of all of them. These kits will be added onto the layout at the appropriate stage during the scenic stage of the layout. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 #5 Detailing kits A section of this afternoon was spent constructing two kits from Wordsworth model railway (http://www.wordsworthmodelrailway.co.uk/index.html). These kits will be used for detailing purposes for the layout. The first kit constructed is a pair of container loads for the Hornby Lowmac wagons. These are finished in a blue livery with Birds Eye logos, with a nice weathered effect. These suit the layout as they have LNER on them so fit in with the GWR setting of the layout. Secondly, a set of crates where constructed with multiple designs for variation. These will be located within the factory building to detail the inside instead of it being completely empty and unrealistic. Additionally, these will be placed on the outside of the factory as well and potentially in and outside of the goods store. Further details have being brought for detailing of the goods yard and factory and will be built at a later date. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 #6 Layout wiring Track laying for the layout has finally being completed today beginning with the track around where the crossover once was along with the track that runs between the two baseboards. These where laid in the same way as the other track on the layout as explained in a previous post. Now that the track is laid the wiring of the layout began for Digital command control using the Hornby select. To wire the layout the wiring diagram (diagram B for DCC) supplied in the November 2013 Hornby Magazine was followed. The preparation, placement and wiring of the article where followed which produced a successfully wired layout, despite the problem with the top station line due to the cross over points. However, once these were removed the layout was fully electric and operational. Testing of the layout commenced with two locomotives a Hornby 0-4-0 and a Hornby Castle class. Both of these locomotives performed brilliantly around the layout and produced no problems during testing, To wire the layout I used a DCC no solder kit from Express Models (http://www.expressmodels.co.uk/acatalog/DCC_No_Solder_Power_Bus_Kit.html). This is an ideal kit for beginners like me as I was able to easily understand the process to wiring using this kit and it was not out of my skills capability due to the layout only requiring soldering above the baseboard. How this kit works is you have to wires, which form the bus wires, running along the baseboard, At the required areas blade slices where inserted into the bus wire and then a crimp blade was inserted to that with the wire running from this to the track (this will make more sense with the picture illustration on the Express Models website), Next the wires where soldered onto the track at the appropriate locations as shown in the magazine's diagram. This completed the wiring of the layout and then testing of the layout commenced with two locomotives: a Hornby 0-4-0 and a Hornby Castle class. Both of these locomotives performed brilliantly around the layout and produced no problems. Not only has the laying of the track and wiring of the layout being completed today but the connection between the baseboards was completed with a hole being cut out from the backscene wood. This enables a train to move from once baseboard to another easily. This hole will not be left bare as in the image below as it will be disguised with the bridge I have constructed (see previous post). So the essentials to a model railway have being completed now with the baseboard constructed, track laid and the layout wired the scenery work can now commence, beginning with track ballasting. I leave you with a picture of the layout's buildings in place (minus the platform - needs building) on the layout as an idea of what the layout will look like once completed. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 #7 Platform and station forecourt construction A section of this weekend was spent constructing the layout's platform and station forecourt. Both of these where provided for free by Scalescenes via a download code in Hornby Magazine's November 2013 issue. To construct the platform the provided instructions where followed and once completed it was glued directly onto the baseboard to provide a secure position for it. Construction of the platform is simple with the construction of the platform's frame, with a stone design which matches the layout's building's design,being completed first then moving onto it's top with a basic stone paving design along with stone boarders. The station forecourt was easily constructed with the basic frame work being constructed first which needed to be of increasing height to the right in order for the station forecourt to be at an increasing slant. In order to achieve this the frame work was constructed from card beginning with the highest card measured and stuck down first to the platform height. This was gradually decreased as the station forecourt moved towards the left of the layout. Now that the frame work was completed the station forecourt top could begin. Firstly, a basic structure of card was laid on top of the structure, which was strengthened more with newspaper stuck in between the gaps, which also provided as an even ground for the forecourt. Completing the station forecourt was the tarmac texture. Instead of using the textures provided in the platform kit I used the tarmac texture provided for the platform top. The use of this provided greater flexibility as it was printed on A4 paper which enabled greater coverage and versatility to make a unique slope for its beginning to it's left. The completed station building was then securely glued onto the platform and station forecourt with half on each. Additionally, the layout's buffer stops have being glued in place made by Bachmann. I have chosen this type of buffer stop as they create a steam era atmosphere and their appearance match the coal bunkers which will be placed in the goods yard. Now that the raw components of the layout are completed ballasting of the track will commence next. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 #8 Ballasting Over the last week the layout has being prepared for its ballasting of the track. For the layout's ballast is by Javis and is the Brown Ballast Chipping bag (reference JFGSTBR). To begin with the layout's track was hovered to remove any dust and dirt that would get mixed in with the ballast when laid. Next up the ballast was then placed onto the track with a spoon and brushed into the desired place. Checking of the ballast ensured that it was not obstructing the track to prevent trains moving. Before ballasting could begin the point mechanisms where covered with masking tape to prevent any glue seeping into the mechanism and seizing it. All of the preparation is now completed the gluing can commence. The ballast was first sprayed with water through a mister and then using a pipette (or you can use a seringue) a glue substance, containing 50/50 glue and water with a drop of washing up liquid, was then placed and penetrated the ballast to provide a thorough spread of the glue. Any movement of the ballast during the water misting and gluing was then correct and is now left to dry for the next 24 hours where it will hopefully be fine. If you would like a visual how to guide on ballasting a useful video on YouTube is by everardjunction. Below is a couple of images of the completed ballast, except the area around the point mechanisms which will will be ballasted once I have got some oil to apply there once the glue has being applied to prevent the mechanism from seizing up. Tomorrow I will check the ballast to see if it is okay and make any amendments if required. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Nice to see this progressing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Nice to see this progressing Thank you yes it is a shame there arn't a lot more of this layout on the web. But it is enjoyable to progress with. Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 #9 Ballasting update Yesterday (Tuesday) the ballast was checked after leaving it for 24 hours as reccomeneded. Overall I was impressed with the apperance of the ballast and once I had checked over the entire ballast I noticed some areas that I have missed aswell as areas that required futhur ballast to produce the desired effect. Not only that I also removed excess ballast around the outside of the track to produce a neater 'shoulder' for the track. Today the adjusting of the ballast continued and the ballasting of the points was also completed. This was completed in the same method as explained in the previous post however, with extreme care to prevent any damage to the points mechanism and any obstruction to the mechanism which would prevent the opperation of the points. If you would like a guide on how to ballast a point with care check out another video on the everardjunction YouTube channel. Over the next 24 hours the adjusted ballast will dry and any ammendments will be made to produce the desired effeect. Once this has being completed scenic work on the goods yard can begin. Here is the ballasted track and points so far: Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuntShed Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looking good, I'm surprised no one has attempted to make this layout on rmweb so congrats for sticking with it . Daniel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looking good, I'm surprised no one has attempted to make this layout on rmweb so congrats for sticking with it . Daniel Yes me too that's why I thought I would create this thread to show people my progress and another persons creation of the layout. Thank you gor looking. Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 #10 Station and goods yard scenery Now that the track's ballast had drive yesterday was spent laying and gluing grey ballast around the goods yard and factory building to act as a stone ground for paths and a road. The ballast used for this is Woodland Scenics medium blend gray B1382. This was applied in the same way as the track ballast as explained in the previous post with 50/50 water and glue mixed with a small drop of washing up liquid. The grey ballast stone was added behind and around the two goods yard sidings which was then followed behind the station sidings buffer's and around the station platform to its forecourt. Not only that the ballast was used to create a path from the goods yard to the factory building where a large amount of the ballast was placed alongside the left hand side of the factory building to act as a road and a gravel parking area. Within this empty are pictured between the goods yard and factory will be a hill with farm animals or a field with animals and a farm barn building. Once the ballast was completly glue and whilst the glue was still wet some green flock scenery was added around the goods yard sidings and at the beggining of the station forecourt. This flock is a basic ground cover for the bushes and trees, made from seafoam, that will go on top of these to ensure a natural and believable environment for them. Applying directly onto the wet ballast provided an easy gluing process which was then aided with a couple of sprays of hairspray to secure any loose bits. Additionally, the spray of the harispray forced the movement of some of the flock which prevented it from having an un-natural and uniformed apperance. Over this weekend the grey ballast will be adjusted if needed along with the new pieces of track ballast. Also futhur scenic detailing of the goods yard will commence. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hi Jonathan Great layout and the model buildings are excellent... making good progress Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hi Jonathan Great layout and the model buildings are excellent... making good progress Jamie Thank you Jamie, yes the buildings came out better than I thought they would and I am pleased with my progress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold traction Posted September 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nice work. I've actually made a start on the buildings as I would like to have a go at building this in N-gauge. This is the warehouse in N-gauge, to give a reference of size thats a standard mobile phone sim card. When I 've finished the layout I'm currently working on I will try and post some pics of the operation build it in N-gauge. Keep us posted on how you are progressing. Cheers Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Nice work . I've actually made a start on the buildings as I would like to have a go at building this in N-gauge. This is the warehouse in N-gauge, to give a reference of size thats a standard mobile phone sim card. DSCF0070.JPG DSCF0068.JPG DSCF0069.JPG When I 've finished the layout I'm currently working on I will try and post some pics of the operation build it in N-gauge. Keep us posted on how you are progressing. Cheers Ian Wow that is fantastic work on the factory building, and the size differance! I look forward to seeing progress of your N gauge version which will provide another viewpoint on this layout, which sadly is not featured a lot on the internet. Currently bushes and trees are being constructed so check back later on this week. Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nice to see another build of this layout. Well done. My own version of it is not progressing as fast as I would like, but I have made a few changes to it. For a start, the platform line has a curve in it and extends off the baseboard on the left side over a level crossing. This is in a derelict state as the line has been closed and the station is now a branch terminus. In the goods yard, I replaced 2 points with a double slip. Saved a bit of space. Won't be long before I can complete track laying and build the fiddle yard and trestles. Then wiring up. Having fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Nice to see another build of this layout. Well done. My own version of it is not progressing as fast as I would like, but I have made a few changes to it. For a start, the platform line has a curve in it and extends off the baseboard on the left side over a level crossing. This is in a derelict state as the line has been closed and the station is now a branch terminus. In the goods yard, I replaced 2 points with a double slip. Saved a bit of space. Won't be long before I can complete track laying and build the fiddle yard and trestles. Then wiring up. Having fun. Your version sound very interesting, will there be any pictures? It has taken me while to get where I am as I started to build the baseboards at the end of June/start of July and only this month began the scenery. Suprisingly I found wiring the layout easily however, I did have a problem near the crossover where there wasn't power reaching the top station line but I think thats because I used insulated points where as Hornby Magazine's wiring diagram was intended for the use of electrofrog points. Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 #11 Track weathering Tonight was spend weathering the track to give a realistic look which I feel is a key component to finishing off the layout. Not only that the use of weathering the track blended in the different color track used on the layout where some was black Peco track and the other was brown. Now that the weathering has being applied this is no longer noticeable thankfully. For track weathering I used Railmatch sleeper grime paint brought from Howes Models in Kidlington, this was applied using an airbrush. Before I applied any weathering to the actual layout I practiced my weathering on a test piece of track that I previously made to test my ballasting, as well as other pieces of spare track. Once I had got used to the airbrush and the painting I moved onto weathering the layout's track. To do this I firstly, sprayed the outer edges of the track and then moved to the inner rails and to complete it I sprayed the center of the track. A useful guide to this can be found on the Penweithers YouTube channel which is where I learnt how to weather my track and also followed this. As of tonight only the sleeper grime plaint has being applied and once dried I will apply more of the paint in areas if needed. Once all of the sleeper grime has being applied a light rust colour will be applied to the side of the rails to provide further realism and to prevent the blandness of one colour of weathering, after all real railway track isn't just one colour. Here is some pictures of the track weathering with only sleeper grime applied as of tonight: Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers2612 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 #11 Track weathering Tonight was spend weathering the track to give a realistic look which I feel is a key component to finishing off the layout. Not only that the use of weathering the track blended in the different color track used on the layout where some was black Peco track and the other was brown. Now that the weathering has being applied this is no longer noticeable thankfully. For track weathering I used Railmatch sleeper grime paint brought from Howes Models in Kidlington, this was applied using an airbrush. Before I applied any weathering to the actual layout I practiced my weathering on a test piece of track that I previously made to test my ballasting, as well as other pieces of spare track. Once I had got used to the airbrush and the painting I moved onto weathering the layout's track. To do this I firstly, sprayed the outer edges of the track and then moved to the inner rails and to complete it I sprayed the center of the track. A useful guide to this can be found on the Penweithers YouTube channel which is where I learnt how to weather my track and also followed this. As of tonight only the sleeper grime plaint has being applied and once dried I will apply more of the paint in areas if needed. Once all of the sleeper grime has being applied a light rust colour will be applied to the side of the rails to provide further realism and to prevent the blandness of one colour of weathering, after all real railway track isn't just one colour. Here is some pictures of the track weathering with only sleeper grime applied as of tonight: Capture 5.JPG Capture 3.JPG Capture 4.JPG Capture 7.JPG Enjoy modelling! Jonathan. Thanks for all the photos, and the running comentary on how you are getting on. It has reminded me of all the fun I have had while building my own version. I'll post some pictures of my own efforts just as soon as I get back home. Keep up the good work Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers2612 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 As promised some photos of my effort - thank you for reminding me of all the fun I had getting to this stage - its still not finished, I still have to install the signals and fit the lighting to the goods yard and terrace house. Besty Wishes Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model Scenery Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 As promised some photos of my effort - thank you for reminding me of all the fun I had getting to this stage - its still not finished, I still have to install the signals and fit the lighting to the goods yard and terrace house. Besty Wishes Paul It is good that I reuniting your interest in this layout. It is a very enjoyable layout to construct I agree. Your layout sounds interesting. However, you didn't attach any images Progress on mine has decrease at the moment due to being busy but hopefully I will have some time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers2612 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 See attached my nearly completed operation build it. Cheers Paul Smithers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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