Clagsniffer Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hi folks. I've got a few of these coaches to repaint into BR blue. The trouble is I just can't remove the glazing without damaging the body at all. I've already ruined to coaches trying different methods! There is just so much glue holding it in and the body sides seem so thin that any sort of leverage seems to crease or distort it. I'm at the stage now where I think I'll just have to mask the windows and paint the body with them in place unless any body has any suggestions/experice? Is there any solvent that would dissolve the glue? Or would that fog the glazing? I've attached a picture to show what I'm up against. Please any help is appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Loctite make glue remover. It comes in 5 gram tubes and is pricy. I got mine from an old fashioned ironmonger/hardware store a few years ago. It worked for me when I wanted to remove the windows from a Hornby 121 body but let's just say that I welcomed the Laserglaze from Extreme Etchings warmly! Apparently there are instructions for use but I do not have them to hand. I do recall that the process was extremely messy and it took more than one tube. You have to leave it to munch its way through whatever ghastly substance Hornby's little gnomes use in excessive abundance to fix the glazing mouldings to the coach sides. If you can get the glazing out undamaged I would strongly recommend cutting it into smaller panels before putting it back again. Good luck! Chris Edit - I should have mentioned that frequent washing of the hands is essential but you will have worked that out when I mentioned messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks for that chris I'll have a look about for some of that, it's got to be worth a try. I take it that it doesn't damage the plastic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 It did not damage the 121 body! Be aware though that the Hornby clear plastic is very brittle. Subject to what the instructions that I cannot find say, you should find that smearing the stuff around the window panel, letting it take effect while keeping impatience under control and then gently levering with a small screwdriver will do the job. If it doesn't than I am very sorry but it worked for me. Alternatively you could wait for someone to come along with a better idea ... Quiet, isn't it? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks mate, I've ordered some so I'll try it out on one of the ruined coaches first. It is quiet yeah, which doesn't fill me with confidence! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks mate, I've ordered some so I'll try it out on one of the ruined coaches first. It is quiet yeah, which doesn't fill me with confidence! Most super glues tend not to like extreme cold, try sticking the body in the freezer for a while. I managed to get all the glazing out of my Hawksworth ease just a bit of gentle persuasion. F**** why the have to use so much adhesive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Most super glues tend not to like extreme cold, try sticking the body in the freezer for a while. I managed to get all the glazing out of my Hawksworth ease just a bit of gentle persuasion. F**** why the have to use so much adhesive. I done the method above with my Hawksworth BG, Popped it in the freezer overnight and the glazing came out relatively easily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul W Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Been doing a Hawksworth myself over the last few months and believe me patience is the key, along with a lot of shouting and swearing.. I too had the same problems with the copious amounts of glue which holds the glazing in, and having tried all the suggested methods on removal all failed. Be aware that the thickness of the Hornby Hawksworth body is very, very thin and will not withstand any softening or excessive prising without buckling or creasing. I ended up cutting around the glued in areas with a cutting wheel on a mini drill and ended up with the glazing removed but with some creases and holes in the body. These were filled and smoothed and after several thin coats of paint and more smoothing it has all ended well. As said at the beginning. patience is the key and be ready for the worst,, do a bit, put it down and walk away and do some more later. Good luck. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2014 I hate to say it, but in this case may be worth fitting brass sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 ... Quiet, isn't it?... Doesn't mean folks aren't watching with interest! I have in view the lovely Hornby Thompson non-gangwayed lav composites which are useful for a couple of outer suburban sets. But I can only find these in (admirable) faux teak, rather than the maroon of circa 1960. So a reliable non-destructive method of glazing removal for present Hornby coach models is of much interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horfield Mob Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hi folks. I've got a few of these coaches to repaint into BR blue. The trouble is I just can't remove the glazing without damaging the body at all. I've already ruined to coaches trying different methods! There is just so much glue holding it in and the body sides seem so thin that any sort of leverage seems to crease or distort it. I'm at the stage now where I think I'll just have to mask the windows and paint the body with them in place unless any body has any suggestions/experice? Is there any solvent that would dissolve the glue? Or would that fog the glazing? I've attached a picture to show what I'm up against. Please any help is appreciated! I don't suppose you want to sell the ruined ones! I just found some comet sides in my box! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wow I didn't realise how long ago it was since I first posted this question! Anyway I just thought I'd let you know how I got on. I finally went back to these coaches and had another go. I used the glue remover technique and the freezer but neither worked. But then I thought about trying the two methods together. I first smothered the glazing with the glue remover, then popped them in the freezer. It did take a few goes, but just doing a bit at a time paid off as I now have three coaches intact (apart from one which has a small tear from a scalpel blade slipping, but should be ok filled and smoothed over). So if you need glazing out of a coach I would highly recommend the glue remover, then the freezer treatment! Thanks to all who helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2016 Should have read this thread. I did one this morning using a very fine scalpel blade between glazing unit and body. Inserting the blade where there is no glue and gentle leverage until the joint is broken - with one side practised on, the other side came out as a single piece. Do not flex the body - I have one slight crease on the first side I attempted, and flexing is simply not necessary the scalpel blade will do the hard work. No glue remover or freezer necessary but may freeze the next one before the scalpel treatment. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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