Rail-Online Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hi, I am trying to date some negs taken at Mossley Hill between Allerton and Edge Hill (down the bottom of someones garden I think!). There are lots of EE type 4's in green with FYE, AL6's and some newly repainted EE type 4's in blue with no D's. However the interesting one is This D380 still with half yellow warning panel. Does anyone know when this loco lost this livery either to get full blue repaint or FYE? My current guess is the negs are 1969 this loco could change that........... Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I guess the silence means nobody knows! Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 Only help I can be; Some green EE type 4's were still GSYWP in 1970, so the possible date could stretch a little. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 There were one or two which kept their small yellow panels into 1972 as well, but (from hazy memory) I think they were disc headcode machines. Aside from that a large number of 40s had full yellow ends applied around 1970, and in this period Crewe Works were still doing complete repaints / patch up jobs in green so as to use up their paint stocks. They even carried on painting the buffer beams red on green 40s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 I missed this first time round..... I have it down as in GSYP until at least June 1969*, however D380 was one of those that had a enlarged yellow panel in March 1965, but it was the other end to your photo. Did it lose the large yellow panel I wonder? 380/40180 was also a green TOPS loco for a period in 1974. R0073 - Rugby Midland by BarkingBill, on Flickr Edit: * from one of your shots http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p766079789/h17413FA1#h17413fa1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 Still GFYE as 380 in 1973 https://www.flickr.com/photos/86020500@N06/7920351818/ Still in GFYE but 40180 by 1974 https://www.flickr.com/photos/50674120@N08/4691422597/in/photolist-9FV3Cn-82DvMj-d9rPCs-gZeYX-9ZRWSm-bRj2iZ-dQNeKC-4yZbBn-9ReZja-bw9Aya-dsKsoq-mERfa2-89yLuv-8RbqYF-9FV3WR-mww5KK-gjGVRU-efjNmR-efqy3w-fHBMLo-dmi7yT-9FV3Sv-9MaETr-9KUfBg-5dt7rC-67roNC-8Lt3Zi-9FXY7L-e7DoRh-hoHmg3-a1NtCf-a5qGdW-dsKhNk-d82FJS-dsK4pe-fre3Rq-de3NeT-cqJNv7-oan3jQ-j9Yc8v-9RhRmw-bXrY6Q-dFGmh6-bE61SW-d5fco9-aHpK8R-6VDi7i-bcLHrT-ibzgCA-hjCqGG Blue by 1977 https://www.flickr.com/photos/graham_williams/7499871488/in/photolist-9FV3Cn-82DvMj-d9rPCs-gZeYX-9ZRWSm-bRj2iZ-dQNeKC-4yZbBn-9ReZja-bw9Aya-dsKsoq-mERfa2-89yLuv-8RbqYF-9FV3WR-mww5KK-gjGVRU-efjNmR-efqy3w-fHBMLo-dmi7yT-9FV3Sv-9MaETr-9KUfBg-5dt7rC-67roNC-8Lt3Zi-9FXY7L-e7DoRh-hoHmg3-a1NtCf-a5qGdW-dsKhNk-d82FJS-dsK4pe-fre3Rq-de3NeT-cqJNv7-oan3jQ-j9Yc8v-9RhRmw-bXrY6Q-dFGmh6-bE61SW-d5fco9-aHpK8R-6VDi7i-bcLHrT-ibzgCA-hjCqGG Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2014 Looking at Phil's links did D380/40 180 ever get nose corner handrails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 Well spotted Clive https://www.flickr.com/photos/60776612@N02/5702547631/in/photolist-8ZcnhK-95eNrw-dZgZEy-e2dC7C-84j9cU-mZXdSp-ef5bW2-fjhHwj-dVys3D-8RbKgK-9FV3JK-o2r5Ae-gDkdSX-nZmufP-fLsoDT-9DfdW9-dVyuo2-7AKzmC-fjgyAC-84g5Ax-aiL93v-anewJe-cyNasY-eE4H3G-dugfLt-asxrRp-bzHHfo-hm3Uky-d4qmLo-dwaYzs-dVytvR-avTCP6-djigMi-cE3w5S-eKxXez-9DDPpK-9E49B7-9E1fYv-9E49GQ-9Qkn6J-d4TSDY-dVE6gq-bahyFr-duRCr2-76kU3z-dzL68F-bQda4B-9FXXZA-oLZMCs-9FV3wa has the answer - well for B end any way - apparently never! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 Another GFYE one here, without the D-prefix but no date...... Note the grey nose top, which was a fairly common addition in this period. https://flic.kr/p/9ReZja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 Another in Blue a little earlier than before. Paint looks quite fresh. 40.180 Birkenhead Mollington street 27th Feb 76. by 54A South dock, on Flickr It looks like it was on Crewe Works in September 1974, so it most likely went blue then, https://www.flickr.com/photos/deadmans_handle/4719223940/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It's one I have little gen for but before Summer 1972. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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