45568 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Reading 'LMS wagons' and 'BR wagons, 1948-54' I was fascinated to see the number of wagons turned out in raw wood, with just the metal corner plates and strapping painted. Austerity and necessity combined apparently to produce this effect, new wagons being needed urgently to help rebuild the economy still struggling from the effects of WW2. The LMS and BR turned out a number of 5-plank designs unpainted. Wary of the pitfalls of different diagram numbers, I selected a P.O. steel-floored 5-plank purchased cheap as part of a clearance at Hattons,the idea being it was rebodied after nationalisation by a private wagon repairer. Having broken the wagon into it's components, the body was sprayed with Tamiya TS68 Wooden deck tan. the ironwork was brush-painted with Humbrol light grey. Ex-P.O. transfers from Modelmaster were applied, and the whole given two coats of Tamiya flat clear. The underframe was sprayed with TS62 Nato Deck brown, and the body floor TS1 red-brown. Weathering was applied using a water-based gouache mix of sienna and black. The second vehicle is the LNER steel open with a wooden door. I have seen a photo of one of these with an unpainted door and wished to replicate this. The door woodwork was picked out in Humbrol 63 Matt sand, the ironwork painted dark grey, and then weathered as with the previous wagon, ( again Modelmaster decals to the rescue!). Something a little bit different! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2014 I like those. Fancy a commission? I have a friend in Perth that could smuggle them over next time he comes P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted September 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2014 That Sand colour is very good for wood effect. Must add it to the shopping list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 There are quite a few shades around that one which are just as good. Drybrushing or dilute washes with grey before you weather also give a slightly varied tone to individual planks. Once you do weather them the whole thing blends together and tones down the effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hi Peter, Good work with these open wagons! I wouldn't have thought of using Humbrol 63 for unpainted wood (I often use 121 'pale stone' as a starting point), but it has come out very well on your models. I managed to pick up one of the LNER 'High Steels' at a toy fair this morning and fancied having a go at following your example. I wondered which Modelmasters sheet you got the number from? Also, out of curiosity which Humbrol grey did you use for the BR unfitted livery (I usually use no. 64)? Cheers, Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have some of the Bachmann ex po coal wagons to get some treatment. The paints used for the raw wood will help. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hi. Those wagons are outstanding, and many thanks for saying what paints you used. I will be trying that out on some wagons in due course. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hi Peter, Good work with these open wagons! I wouldn't have thought of using Humbrol 63 for unpainted wood (I often use 121 'pale stone' as a starting point), but it has come out very well on your models. I managed to pick up one of the LNER 'High Steels' at a toy fair this morning and fancied having a go at following your example. I wondered which Modelmasters sheet you got the number from? Also, out of curiosity which Humbrol grey did you use for the BR unfitted livery (I usually use no. 64)? Cheers, Steve Thanks for the compliment Steve! I am on holiday in the UK at present, so cannot check exactlywhich M/M decal sheet I used,although I am sure it was one specific to LNER open wagons. it may not be a correct number! I did not respray this wagon, but carefully removed the LNER lettering with a scalpel blade. Normally for BR grey I use car grey primer, or Humbrol 64 for paint touch-ups. Cheers from Dunster! Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 45568, I salute you. Those wagons look miles better than my few attempts thus far! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2014 Thanks for the compliment Steve! I am on holiday in the UK at present, so cannot check exactlywhich M/M decal sheet I used,although I am sure it was one specific to LNER open wagons. it may not be a correct number! I did not respray this wagon, but carefully removed the LNER lettering with a scalpel blade. Normally for BR grey I use car grey primer, or Humbrol 64 for paint touch-ups. Cheers from Dunster! Peter C. Hi Peter, thanks for the reply. On checking in Tatlow's book, you are quite right - although in the correct number series for open wagons generally, I don't think this particular number does actually apply to a steel sided wagon. I may go through my collection of Modelmasters sheets and see whether I can cobble up a suitable number from permutations of various ones, or I may just follow your example and 'turn a blind eye'! Interesting that you've retained the original grey, it must be possible to remove the LNER lettering without leaving blemishes - the result looks pretty good, anyway. Thanks again, and enjoy your holiday! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 As a follow on from my post above, that same Cambrian open with the first stage of weathering complete: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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