BR(S) Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Does anyone know if the Bachmann Scenecraft 44-221 low relief Underground station (http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/image_box.php?image=images1/scraft/44-221.jpg&cat_no=44-221&info=0&width=581&height=522) is based on any particular station? They are being sold at half price at the moment (at least at Kernow and Invicta; £16.99) and anyone thinking of buying one is advised that it looks far better in-the-flesh than in any pictures I've seen. I was a bit hesitant in buying it based on these pictures, but am really pleased I did. The brickwork is light grey, not white as it looks in some pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It's almost identical to Balham. Well, two-thirds of it, anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesparx Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Tooting Bec...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 That's useful then as it's Northern Line architecture, so handy for Highgate Wood Sidings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Interesting that it looks better in the "flesh" than in the pictures I've seen. I'm building a NSE layout located (in my head) around Croydon and I need a low relief corner building. I was thinking of a bank but now it looks like the Northern Line must have built an extension to Croydon... Thanks for the heads-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesparx Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That's useful then as it's Northern Line architecture, so handy for Highgate Wood Sidings. I believe the 'Northern Line architecture' is actually that of Charles Holden.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Holden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I believe the 'Northern Line architecture' is actually that of Charles Holden.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Holden Yes it is. I did a quick "Google" in light of BR(S)'s post and I personally can't tell Balham from Tooting Bec (or Clapham South etc etc)... A nice design friom the 20s. © Copyright Richard Rogerson and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 A couple of pictures for those tempted to buy one: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I really like that but I have no use for a low-relief one. Now, if they would produce a full version of that building ...:hmmm: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesparx Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yes it is. I did a quick "Google" in light of BR(S)'s post and I personally can't tell Balham from Tooting Bec (or Clapham South etc etc)... A nice design friom the 20s. balham.jpg © Copyright Richard Rogerson and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence Ah yes, " Bal-ham - Gateway to the South. "...Real contrast in styles here with the 'modern' tube station and the 'old' Balham LBSCR ticket office / station building behind... or was it LSWR ? One for Dudders I feel... ( Edited for comic (!) effect...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Definitely LBSCR, Balham is on the Brighton line. I grew up around Croydon, so the Northern Line is pretty familiar to me but I honestly don't think I ever gave the station architecture a second look... I guess you wouldn't as a child, would you? The original part of Balham railway station seen next to Holden's underground station dates from around the 1860s but it was extended in the 1890s for extra capacity. It's still pretty original today and yes, you're right - the difference between the 1860s building and Holden's 1920s underground station is remarkable and crying out to be modelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It looks exactly like a lot of Northern Line stations, particularly the ones South of Oval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted November 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2014 Interesting that it looks better in the "flesh" than in the pictures I've seen. I'm building a NSE layout located (in my head) around Croydon and I need a low relief corner building. I was thinking of a bank but now it looks like the Northern Line must have built an extension to Croydon... Thanks for the heads-up. I too was born and raised in Croydon. Now I'm no geologist, but the "word on the street" amongst the railway people I knew there was that the reason the tube has never, and will never, be extended to Croydon is one of geology. Apparently all the "deep bore tubes" are dug into a formation of "Bedford clay" where tunnel boring is relatively straightforward. Croydon sits on top of a massive formation of chalk, which is "technically challenging" (i.e. madly expensive) to tunnel through. Perhaps we have a resident civil engineer on this forum who can confirm or deny this? This does fit in with recent history, where Croydon's recent public transport investment has been distinctly "overground". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Interesting. I lived in Wallington and we never ran short of chalk to draw with - just used to dig up massive lumps of the white stuff from the garden so that backs up the chalk soil theory. The underground came to Morden which was not too far from me in the opposite direction (to Croydon) but isn't the last few miles of the Northern line practically overground or at least very shallow? We digress though. I still think the Bachmann low-relief underground station's kinda cute! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2014 I too was born and raised in Croydon. Now I'm no geologist, but the "word on the street" amongst the railway people I knew there was that the reason the tube has never, and will never, be extended to Croydon is one of geology. Apparently all the "deep bore tubes" are dug into a formation of "Bedford clay" where tunnel boring is relatively straightforward. Croydon sits on top of a massive formation of chalk, which is "technically challenging" (i.e. madly expensive) to tunnel through. Perhaps we have a resident civil engineer on this forum who can confirm or deny this? This does fit in with recent history, where Croydon's recent public transport investment has been distinctly "overground". Generally, the geology in South-East London is difficult for tube construction. Hence the rather unbalanced look of the tube map. I think this particular style of building is unique to the Morden extension of the Northern Line. I can't recall seeing it elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Well, on a visit to the Bure Valley model shop at Aylsham station, lo and behold, they had one remaining Scenecraft underground station for £15.99 which came home with me in a carrier bag. Next day it went back to the shop as the "Underground" sign on the pole has been printed upside down! Now that I've spotted it, it looks ridiculous. There's no way of cutting and shutting it without snapping bits off. To their credit, they'll return the item to Bachmann and try to get another one for me. I was worried they all had this error but looking at BR(S)'s model, it's fine. Never mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I still keep looking at the bargain prices and thinking that maybe I could build the remainder of the building, but I really doubt my abilities to match the Bachmann finish. It does capture the character of the real buildings.I must remain strong ... repeat ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Ah yes, " Bal-ham - Gateway to the South. "...Real contrast in styles here with the 'modern' tube station and the 'old' Balham LBSCR ticket office / station building behind... or was it LSWR ? One for Dudders I feel... ( Edited for comic (!) effect...) Sorry, been offline for a few weeks, so only just spotted this generous suggestion that I might know something! Anyway it's been well-covered by others now. Balham LBSCR does seem to be the original 1856 station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I still keep looking at the bargain prices and thinking that maybe I could build the remainder of the building, but I really doubt my abilities to match the Bachmann finish. It does capture the character of the real buildings. I must remain strong ... repeat ... SRman... have you seen this: http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page4.htm Scroll about 1/3 of the way down the page. A full relief card kit of a Holden station. Spotted it whilst searching for something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Thanks for that Pete. I have seen Kingsway kits before but, nice as they are, they don't have the relief that the resin buildings have (very few card kits do).One of our local bus modellers, Peter Greaves, has done several of the Kingsway kits, with a some of them actually pictured (and attributed) on the Kingsway site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I do agree about the lack of relief. Each to their own, but I much prefer plastic or resin and have few card models. I do think it's a missed opportunity for Bachmann to release this as low relief only, effectively chopping the model in half. Low relief can work well, but it does seem an odd choice especially for a "corner" model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It seems we are of the same mind, Peter. I have certainly used card kits in the past, but I find them less and less convincing nowadays due to the overall flatness. On the other hand, I use more and more embossed card, plastic and resin structures, with card kits acting as temporary placeholders until I can get (or build) something better. To that end, I'll defend kits from the likes of Superquick, Metcalfe, Scalescenes, Kingsway, and others, as well as criticising them! They still have a definitely positive place in the model railway market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D5541 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It's sods law really, I paid about £28.99 for mine a few weeks ago and then noticed the price had been dropped recently!! Had similar luck with a pair of boots brought them at full price n a week later they were on offer at half price! Anyways, that aside, could anyone point me in the direction of transfers/lettering of the correct font to add a station name to the blue bar above the door? Cheers Dan :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It's sods law really, I paid about £28.99 for mine a few weeks ago and then noticed the price had been dropped recently!! Had similar luck with a pair of boots brought them at full price n a week later they were on offer at half price! Anyways, that aside, could anyone point me in the direction of transfers/lettering of the correct font to add a station name to the blue bar above the door? Cheers Dan :-) Could be worth trying ModelMaster: http://www.modelmasterdecals.com/index.php Failing that, I know the Underground font is Johnston, so it may be possible to make up your own station names. I've just made up some Network SouthEast nameboards on the PC and printed them out onto semi-gloss self adhesive photo paper and they've worked really well, BUT... the signs have a white background. You'd need to print the blue background too, and I can imagine getting a colour match might be tricky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHertsGER Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 SRman... have you seen this: http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page4.htm Scroll about 1/3 of the way down the page. A full relief card kit of a Holden station. Spotted it whilst searching for something else. ...and if you look very carefully you can see a 'yettie in plimsolls' porting his guitar and whistling 'Keep the red flag flying...' In the general direction of mischief. Who said the grave of Karl Marx was a communist plot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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