RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2014 Good evening. Bit of a long shot here. I have been scouring the interwebby for pics of the above vehicles with almost zero luck. Has anyone any info. on the above fleet please? I am embarrassed to admit I have very little knowledge of other vehicles from this era as well, apart from some cars and a limited number of buses and coaches that I remember from my childhood. I'll be looking for 4mm scale vehicles eventually. Many thanks. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 EFE produced a Bedford TK box van a year or two back. The TK was introduced in 1961 but I don't know what year the EFE model represents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm sure I've read an article about Express Daries in a magazine. That would have been a vintage lorry magazine, 'Vintage Roadscene' comes to mind. I would suggest writing to or e-mailing them and other similar magazines for help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thank you lads. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Might be worth having a look here:- http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/ and here:- http://chrishodgetrucks.co.uk/gallery/Truck-Archive/Latest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thank you Fat C. Don't usually look at trucks but these are amazing sources. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Searle Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Hi, EFE did a couple of AEC tankers 13601 AEC Ergo 3 Axle 33501 AEC Mammoth Major 4 Axle. Hope this helps Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Another good resource http://na3t.org/road?search=express+dairy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2014 markw, that's excellent. Don' know why that didn't show up on my web search, so many thanks indeed. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 Spent most of yesterday searching for sales sources and with almost zero results. One unboxed on EBay - good price but I'm unsure it is the right era. Another few places with what I think is a 1970s tanker. Looks nice but is around £20 and far too late for me anyway. I've put a Wanted in Classifieds but maybe I could repeat the request here? Anyone got any lurking in their collection that they might be able to move on? Sincerely, Phil R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted November 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2014 How about this one Phil? - they seem to have one in stock. http://pufferwillies.co.uk/uk2ecommerce/product/efe_33501_00_scale_aec_mammoth_major_mark_iii_4_axle_circular_tanker_truck_express_dairy_/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 How about this one Phil? - they seem to have one in stock. http://pufferwillies.co.uk/uk2ecommerce/product/efe_33501_00_scale_aec_mammoth_major_mark_iii_4_axle_circular_tanker_truck_express_dairy_/ The registration dates from 1950, such vehicles would have usually remained in service for 10-15 years but sometimes as much as 25 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I can't remember seeing any 'United Dairies' bulk tanks when I lived in South West Wales (1955> 1973); the two firms I remember were Bulwark of Chepstow (there are models available of one of their vehicles) and Wincanton Transport. Wincanton were part of the United Dairies empire, and had a depot at the London end of the Briton Ferry bridge; I think this was shared with Calor transport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks Grandad and Phil. hadn't spotted that one and it is just west of here (36E) too. The order is done. Now all I need is the fleet of Vans that I have yet to identify from a photo I have found! Fat C. Seaton Junction was strictly Express Dairies. However, some of the 6 wheel tankers (rail) I've noted from 'sources', were MMB. I'm slowly building up my collection of relevant wagons and looking forward to weathering the lot as they were generally filthy (on the outside). P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think that the dairies were like bus companies, and at one time the railways were 'regional' in nature. Express Dairies predominated in some areas whereas United Dairies were common in others with the Co-op being another big player. Another thing to be aware of if modelling a specific area or region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks Grandad and Phil. hadn't spotted that one and it is just west of here (36E) too. The order is done. Now all I need is the fleet of Vans that I have yet to identify from a photo I have found! Fat C. Seaton Junction was strictly Express Dairies. However, some of the 6 wheel tankers (rail) I've noted from 'sources', were MMB. I'm slowly building up my collection of relevant wagons and looking forward to weathering the lot as they were generally filthy (on the outside). P The Milk Marketing Board bought and collected all the milk from the farms, selling it on to the processors, such as Express Dairies and Unigate (who had been United Dairies and Cow and Gate). If there was a surplus of milk in one region, MMB tanks would take to other regions where there might be a shortfall. My former colleague, Stephen Poole, wrote about the mechanics of rail-borne milk traffic in his 'Beyond The Crumbling Edge'; he had been one of the last 'Milk Controllers' at Paddington, and thus on BR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 Priceless info there. many thanks for letting me have that. MMB Tanker Lorries I shall search for as well then. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have found a couple of trucks that I need to identify. With thanks to the owner of the above photograph. Second from left - Bedford? Thanks. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The one in the first photo is an Austin- possibly an FF. The second photo, left to right are:- Thames Trader Normal-control, I believe Bedford C-type Bedford M or OL Two more as per the first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 Brian = genius. Thanks mate. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Brian = genius. Thanks mate. Phil Just a case of looking through those pages on http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/f552295240and looking for the nearest fit. It's amazing the variety of designs in production from any given manufacturer at the time, and sad to see how it's all been lost. Around that time, dad did a lot of work for local garages, and would come home with piles of brochures of the latest Bedfords and Austins. I'd not realised, until looking through the site, that the long-bonnet Ford was a Thames Trader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have found a couple of trucks that I need to identify. HuK0695.jpg With thanks to the owner of the above photograph. In that second photo, I'm sure they are all Bedfords. The centre one is a OL and the other bonneted ones are TA or TD chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 might be worth putting a post on the oldtimers section of trucknet you may get some of the oldboys helping you out try this link http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2014 They are all Bedfords in the second photo, models A, S, O and the last two are also A's. There is a group on Facebook called 'Even Older British Trucks' which from time to time features milk tankers. There is a pic of an Express Dairy AEC tanker posted this morning on that group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 20, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hi, EFE did a couple of AEC tankers 13601 AEC Ergo 3 Axle 33501 AEC Mammoth Major 4 Axle. Hope this helps Robert 33501 arrived yesterday (not my pic) Top rate model from PufferWillies at Sheffield. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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