TIR signage

[acg5324]

I am currently converting a Tomytec n scale tractor / trailer to something a bit more British and 1970's looking. The picture of the vehicle I am using as a base has a TIR plate on the front near side of the trailer. I remember there is usually one on the rear, is there any correct position for this?

 

TIA

[Robert Searle]

Hi,

In The Transport Managers & Operators Handbook C1990 it states 'When a vehicle has been approved it must display at the front and the rear a plate showing the letters  TIR in white on a blue background.'

No mention of position.

 

Regards

 

Robert

[acg5324]

Many thanks Robert, that'll do me.

[acg5324]

This is the result

 

More pics here.........http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75679-kensington-olympia-in-n-scale/?p=1707071

[Fat Controller]

When going to work last night, I saw a lorry carrying a TIR plate. It was a non-EU (perhaps Turkish) box trailer; the plate was mounted towards the bottom of the LH door. I'm not sure what the criteria for having to carry them is anymore- at one time it was any vehicle making international journeys, but now it seems to be confined to those vehicles going outside the EU.

[Catkins]

Nice truck there AGC, it looks like a Hino, a Japanese make, that was imported into Ireland and the UK in the mid 1970's.

The Irish seemed to be keener on them than the brits.

[Griffin Road]

When going to work last night, I saw a lorry carrying a TIR plate. It was a non-EU (perhaps Turkish) box trailer; the plate was mounted towards the bottom of the LH door. I'm not sure what the criteria for having to carry them is anymore- at one time it was any vehicle making international journeys, but now it seems to be confined to those vehicles going outside the EU.

Very simply -

 

Used when Going outside the EU (Turkey not a TIR country when entering the EU ) and travelling with a TIR Carnet you display a TIR Plate . No real position - just front and back . Plate is supposed to allow easy transit through borders . The carnet is a customs document that is an arse to fill out and generally comes in 8,16,24,36 page forms .

 

If you look up ' TIR' on the web there is a wiki page about it . However I did do TIR work in the past and , as said , the above is very simply put .

 

 

Cheers

 

Mike b ( thankfully not doing TIR work anymore )

[Fat Controller]

Very simply -

 

Used when Going outside the EU (Turkey not a TIR country when entering the EU ) and travelling with a TIR Carnet you display a TIR Plate . No real position - just front and back . Plate is supposed to allow easy transit through borders . The carnet is a customs document that is an arse to fill out and generally comes in 8,16,24,36 page forms .

 

If you look up ' TIR' on the web there is a wiki page about it . However I did do TIR work in the past and , as said , the above is very simply put .

 

 

Cheers

 

Mike b ( thankfully not doing TIR work anymore )

Thanks for explaining that. I ws talking to one of my neighbours about the delights of carnets the other day. Her husband used to build, repair hire and sell harpsichords, which had a limited, but important, European market. There were different carnets depending whether the instrument was being hired or sold, only obtainable from a limited number of sources. This would lead to documents being sent Red Star from one end of the country to the other, only to find that the Customs office at the port of entry didn't have the means to process cash payments. It would explain the myriad Customs brokers that you'd find around frontier points.

[Griffin Road]

Thanks for explaining that. I ws talking to one of my neighbours about the delights of carnets the other day. Her husband used to build, repair hire and sell harpsichords, which had a limited, but important, European market. There were different carnets depending whether the instrument was being hired or sold, only obtainable from a limited number of sources. This would lead to documents being sent Red Star from one end of the country to the other, only to find that the Customs office at the port of entry didn't have the means to process cash payments. It would explain the myriad Customs brokers that you'd find around frontier points.

 

A plain TIR carnet for export goods

 

An ATA carnet for temporary importation eg exhibition stuff that was to be eventually returned

 

And another on for cars / motor vehicles etc that I can't remember the name of .

 

 

The agents were there for that very reason . They do import export clearance of goods etc . Not too many around nowadays since the EC open border system took hold .

 

M b

 

 

Ps. 4 / 6 /14 and 20 pages in a carnet to correct my earlier post - before someone pulls me up on the details

[doctor quinn]

Nice truck there AGC, it looks like a Hino, a Japanese make, that was imported into Ireland and the UK in the mid 1970's.

The Irish seemed to be keener on them than the brits.

Weren't they later assembled in Ireland? Hino tipper trucks were quite popular with civil engineering contractors around Nottingham into the early noughties.

 

Nick

[shipbadger]

Hino trucks were assembled by Harris in Ireland.  Still a fair number of eight legger tippers working around the Gloucester/Bristol area.  I suspect much depends on where there is a convenient dealer and what sort of deal can be struck.  When they were building part of the Gloucester northern bypass there was a sizeable fleet of Russian built tippers in use, apparently bought as a job lot cheap.  Most I think went for scrap at the end of the contract.  They were notable for being bonneted, the only other bonneted tipper commonly seen at that time being the Magirus-Deutz.  Hino is the heavy truck part of the Toyota empire.

 

Tony Comber