Ramblings from the Man Cave

The Higgs - Meister has been busy I see...

Interesting to see these appear...

Hi Rich

 

This is VERY useful to me, thank you for posting it.

 

Missy

It's good to see these. I feel some purchasing coming on when they are released. You look to have made a very nice job of them.

Richard, thanks for posting.

 

How is the pannier chassis retained in the body and does one have to use a coreless motor?

 

Cheers,

David

How is the pannier chassis retained in the body and does one have to use a coreless motor?

 

Erm, at the moment it isn't. I think I said they were nearly finished. There are some holes on the sideframes that act as drilling aids for the fixing holes in the body. I haven't used them, prefering an alternative.

 

The motors are 8mm because that is all that will fit without major butchery. It may not even be possible to fit a 10mm motor. (The 0-6-0T did have a 10mm FH on for a bit before fitting the body and that ran really nicely, but I took it out for a large number of reasons, including those given.) I don't know of any currently available 8mm motors that aren't coreless. I really like the Mashima flat cans, but even the smallest is too big for most 2mm models.

The motors are 8mm because that is all that will fit without major butchery. It may not even be possible to fit a 10mm motor. (The 0-6-0T did have a 10mm FH on for a bit before fitting the body and that ran really nicely, but I took it out for a large number of reasons, including those given.) I don't know of any currently available 8mm motors that aren't coreless. I really like the Mashima flat cans, but even the smallest is too big for most 2mm models.

 

Its probably worth pointing out that I supplied Richard with the 'advanced' version of the Pannier chassis. This drives on the rear axle and allows you to use an 8mm coreless motor that will appear to be the boiler of the loco, with the daylight below that real Panniers have. The builder is expected to butcher the body to achieve this, and perhaps build himself a new footplate as Julia did - sorry, I mean Missy in this parallel universe.

 

There will also be a 'beginners' version that will drive on the middle axle as the Bachmann chassis does, and allow larger motors such as a 10mm coreless within the firebox/cab. This should require no body modifications.

 

For the 14XX there is little alternative to the 8mm coreless. Although a 10mm version might just squeeze in if a 21:1 wormset is used instead of the 30:1.

Its probably worth pointing out that I supplied Richard with the 'advanced' version of the Pannier chassis. This drives on the rear axle and allows you to use an 8mm coreless motor that will appear to be the boiler of the loco, with the daylight below that real Panniers have. The builder is expected to butcher the body to achieve this............

 

Thanks for the clarification Chris.

 

It would appear from your explanation that, in Richard's last photograph, he has shown the loco body the 'wrong way round' in relation to the chassis?

 

David

Thanks for the clarification Chris.

 

It would appear from your explanation that, in Richard's last photograph, he has shown the loco body the 'wrong way round' in relation to the chassis?

 

David

 

No, the last photo is of the 14XX Autotank, not the Pannier

 

Chris

These look really nice. Some neat workmanship there.

Donw

Richard, thanks for posting.

 

How is the pannier chassis retained in the body and does one have to use a coreless motor?

 

Cheers,

David

 

After having played around with the CAD, and also the actual Pannier body, I have come to the conclusion that you cannot fit anything larger than a 10mm cylindrical motor in without major chunks of the casting being removed. This applies to whichever axle you drive the loco off. So even the smallest Mashima I have (16mm by 12mm by 10mm) cannot be used, and it looks like coreless is the only option.

 

Chris

See a previous posting with a pannier tank with one of these motors in (and a flywheel). It is a squash though and the flywheel is very visible in the cab. They are nice motors though.