'CHARD Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Newtongrange in the freight only (to Lady Vic) period. Extremely rare shot and very scarce location, thanks Bill! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=40893 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lyonesse Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Not sure if it's already been posted, but a nice pic was published on the BBC, some time back. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1201683174/html/1.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 This fave of Bill's is now up on Railscot, concisely captioned: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=40939 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 The SB again, easy to imagine the WR was still in operation two years after closure... http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=40967 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Don't know if this photo at Lady Victoria taken in August 1948 is of any interest. Loco 60002 on 11.25 Waverley to King's Cross via Kelso. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Another great photo to justify loco purchases! Also a slightly different view of colliery entrance. Thanks Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 That's a lovely shot, Bruce. a) there aren't so many photos of the great flood diversions on Waverley metals and b ) it appears even at his early date that of the three tracks leading from the main line/ headshunt into the colliery sidings, only the middle road has the polish of frequent use, the outer tracks both have dulled rail heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Another gem Bruce..... That is the first shot I have seen of an all Pullman consist (bar the teak Gresley full brake at the front) on Waverley metals - possibly the up 'Queen of Scots'? The colouring of the streak looks to light to be green, yet she appears to be wearing BR lining, so guess she is painted Express blue. Operationally wise, the down line connection into the colliery looks to be very little used.... did trains leaving Lady Vic head south before reversing to head back up to Edinburgh or was there a connection at the northern end of the colliery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Iain Mac Posted December 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2012 The exchange sidings are behind the photographer on the south side of bridge 20. The Up and down main line connections on the north as seen here are (L-R) Down line, up line and to the exchange which runs through the second arch of the bridge independent of the main. A further ladder connection existed on the south side and was more commonly used as best I know. I assume the down connection was for arriving coal from Arniston etc for washing and screening but that would be a guess. Certainly Arniston was still on the go at this date and as mentioned the connection looks lightly used. It would be interesting to find out more about the workings to and from the site. Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thanks for that Iain, I will find a map tonight to get my bearings I think! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thanks for that Iain, I will find a map tonight to get my bearings I think! Chris Bro, there are perfect maps at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html Now you'd never pass for my grandmother, but I'll still give you a pointer into sucking this particular egg: Use 'Newtonloan' as your target, that will centre your map results pretty well on the A7 crossroads that adjoin the siding complex. The co-ordinates I ended up at for my centre were 333425, 663133. If you manually adjust your 'y' co-ordinate to 663500, that will bring the pit itself into the frame. Add 250 a time to the Y and refresh to scan northwards and view the siding complex on the down side as well. Your top choices are "1953-1958 Post-WWII" and "1968 Post-WWII," both of which are scaled at 1:2500 and on which you can make out individual tracks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Iain Mac Posted December 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2012 The two shunt ahead signals for the reception sidings are alongside the Gresley brake in the photo. A Clayton leaving with a raft of minerals from the reception is shown bottom right of page 29 in David Crosses book the last years of The Waverley Route. A caption he has got correct. A series of photos are shown from page 28-31. Slightly further on but still on topic, top of page 33 with the D49 shows the reception in the background for Arniston Engine. I mean seriously, just ignore the caption. Its actually left Gorebridge, crossed the A7 at Shank Bridge and entering what is now Goreglen park but it shows the proximity of Arniston to the main line. Bottom of the same page is further towards Lady Vic but still in Goreglen, not leaving Gorebridge. The bridge shown is the now infilled bridge 23 for Kirkhill Manor and Lady Vic's down distant stands to the left. You should be able to follow these on the maps the man Chard recommends (which I too am off to look out now). I'm in the process of preparing 1/4 mile maps at 1:762 but it'll be a while before I get that far. Happy hunting, Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Newtongrange in the freight only (to Lady Vic) period. Extremely rare shot and very scarce location, thanks Bill! http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=40893 I only just noticed what is in plain view in this photo: the facing crossover for (presumably) Newbattle Coal Stacking Site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Iain Mac Posted December 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2012 Correct. When re signalling took place and Newtongrange box closed, Lady Vic took over on a power signalling system. I say that but it is entirely based on assumption. I have Hardengreens signalling diagrams through a period of time and no reference is made to extension south where as it is to the north and Glenesk. At the end of the up platform had been a pair of Banners for diverging road (in this case across the down main) and main line roads. If you go back to the Lady Vic box pic (Chards post #56 above), you can quite clearly see the extension to the structure at the north (right hand) end in the tiles and brick work. I could not vouch for a date for this modification though. Mac. Edit. Photo top of page 20 of the Waverley Route Through Time by Roy G Perkins and some other mug called Iain Macintosh. Ring any bells? Na, me neither........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 During my research for my layout project I bought copies of the colliery plans including the sidings, I would take a picture and post them here but am not sure how I would stand copyright wise. They are over two sheets and measure about 3.5m in length, thats before i even try to upscale them to N! If someone can advise on the copyright, I can post when I am back from work on the 19th. It should help with how everything fits into the mainline. The only thing the isn't shown is the stocking yard at Butlerfield. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Even when working away from home I have at last managed to find time to restart my layout. Here is the start of the headframe. Run out of materials. Don't look to closely as it isn't quite as good as I'd like. Slight adjustments need to be made. Can't do any more until model shop opens on Monday!! Next problem is how to get it home on a plane! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Headframe transported home safely and I thought I see how far I'd got before I stopped. The brown card is just for contrast. Hopefully I'll find inspiration for the winding wheels at Model Rail Scotland at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawick_1987 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Great job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Nice work, definitely taking shape nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shed64a Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have started building the first Clayton for the layout and am going to do a blog for the build. Both the blog and the kit build are first's for me. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1307/entry-11336-starting-the-build/ All comments are as always very welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Very interested in your clayton project. I always always wanted one but never ever felt the resin one, that's was offered by somebody (cant even remember now) was up to all that much plus if I recall correctly it also required a very rare Japanese chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Very interested in your clayton project. I always always wanted one but never ever felt the resin one, that's was offered by somebody (cant even remember now) was up to all that much plus if I recall correctly it also required a very rare Japanese chassis. Hi MHB The resin Clayton is by Parkwood Models. It requires a Micro-Ace or Tomix chassis both as rare as the proverbial Rocking Horse "doo doo". I have made one which I put on a rather crude scratch built "dummy" chassis working on the basis that they frequently failed and had to be "dragged" by a rescuing locomotive. Pic below: - The Judith Edge kit shown in this thread looks to be something in an altogether different league and this one looks to be coming together superbly. Given the limitations of room in the body I am curious to know how it will be powered. Regards Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Interesting to see Lady Vic getting a namecheck in the Thatcher's passing coverage. This is from Herald Scotland: In Midlothian, former miner Frederick Mabon was in front of his TV when the early afternoon news announced the death. ... Mr Mabon's 42-year mining career had ended in the 1980s when the Lady Victoria Colliery at Newtongrange closed. He never found employment again and now, aged 85, lives alone in a red-brick house built by the coal industry. He said: "At the time everyone had a grudge against her. When she closed the pits it was devastating. I couldn't get a job, but that was the system. The young ones got the money and the old ones got nothing really. I wouldn't say I was glad she died, but that is an era finished. I usually have a drink in the evening anyway, but tonight I'll wish her the best of luck." I've left the entire quote complete for balance, as it's not my intention to start any political debate here. It's socio-economically pithy though, that this area had a double-whammy barely ten years apart with the railway and then the pit closing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Great to see the formation alongside Lady Vic starting to resemble something other than a linear wildlife haven again. http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=44785 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastworld Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Will the colliery be reconnected though? Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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