PWSlack Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 ....so the Mausell set can be bought off the shelf from Hornby?... Only in OO.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Just for interest here is a not very good picture of a not very good model I made in the early 1970s from card of the 6 wheel brake built at Highbridge specifically to carry mail on the 2.40 am down freight. It was still around in 1950 as shown in Ivo Peters S&D in the Fifties Volume One. Roger, Thanks for reminding us about those 20Ton vans. You make it sound as though there was only one, but in Bixley et al. An Illustrated History of Southern Wagons, volume one, it is suggested that about 24 of them passed into LMS stock in 1930, though elsewhere I've read that only one survived to nationalisation. Can you provide a reference for the suggestion that they (or at least the survivor) was used on the 2.40am down freight, please? Was it in the Ivo Peters volume? I don't have my copy to hand. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Checking through some other sources for information about these mail trains, I found an interesting reference in Robin Atthill's The Somerset & Dorset Railway (David & Charles 1967). On p149, he says: In May 1888 the 2.30am express goods from Bath to Templecombe became the 2.50am express mail and goods to Bournemouth, which continued to run until 7 September 1964 (latterly as the 2.40am) and always as a mixed train. What with taking water at Chilcompton, crossing an up goods at Binegar, halting at Masbury summit, examination at Templecombe No. 2, and eight stops including the depositing of mail bags at Templecombe Lower Platform, it is little wonder that it required 5h. 5m. for the journey; in 1929 it still required 5h 12m. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbow Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Roger, Thanks for reminding us about those 20Ton vans. You make it sound as though there was only one, but in Bixley et al. An Illustrated History of Southern Wagons, volume one, it is suggested that about 24 of them passed into LMS stock in 1930, though elsewhere I've read that only one survived to nationalisation. Can you provide a reference for the suggestion that they (or at least the survivor) was used on the 2.40am down freight, please? Was it in the Ivo Peters volume? I don't have my copy to hand. Nick Hi Nick Yes I am sure you are correct ref the number of vehicles although I am surprised it was quite so many for a specialist vehicle. Evidence sources are S&D in the Fifties Vol 1 by Ivo picture 32 showing 53804 at Shepton Mallet on 04/03/1950. Also Colin Maggs Highbridge in it’s Heyday Photo No.33. I quote “Goods Brake Van No.6. 20 t. 5 cwt. 3 qr. Known as ‘mail vans’ they were used on the 2.40 am. mail goods train from Bath to Bournemouth for carrying Royal Mail. Although a goods vehicle, they were built by the carriage bodymakers, not wagon builders and a number of carriage fittings were incorporated—doors fitted with carriage locks and windows, oil lamps built into roof. Cast iron slabs were fitted to the under-frame to make up weight. Hand operated brake gear applied to front and rear of all 6 wheels.†Regards Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hi Roger, Thanks for that. I've now managed to retrieve my copy of the Ivo Peters book. That photo suggests it/they returned to Bath in other freight workings during daylight hours though, unfortunately, he doesn't say which one. Thanks also for the reminder about the Maggs Highbury book. It's been on my list of books to buy for a long time but I keep forgetting about it. However, today I managed to find one so it should be here in a few days. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 ...so the Mausell set can be bought off the shelf from Hornby? Set 390 arrived today from Hattons. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lakeview770 Posted December 17, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2011 Sweet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 17, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2011 Now that is what I call a gen-u-ine Somerset & Dorset rake of coaching stock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lakeview770 Posted December 17, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wont reply in an English accent as most Americans can't do one (Dick Van Dyke - Mary Poppins, I rest my case) But seriously a beautiful set of models, will be ordering a set after Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 18, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2011 They really are fantastic models. I've got one or two still in boxes, but last year I finally got round to weathering two of them up for use on 'Engine Wood'. My short rake doesn't feature a 4-compartment low windowed brake coach, but they still look great, although the Hornby livery doesn't really match the solitary Kirk corridor 3rd that I built a few years ago (which will continue to be used in isolation on the Bleakhouse Road 'branch' set). I also tackled a couple of my Bachmann Mark 1s (maroon), that had been sitting in their boxes for far too long. I used a pair of spare Hornby close couplers on the Bachmann coaches and they worked very well. I'm also very tempted by this latest 3-car rake, the more folk keep posting photos and saying how nice they are, the more my resolve will weaken! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler Fan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Roger, well spotted - plate 32 On my list to build; thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbow Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Roger, well spotted - plate 32On my list to build; thank you. Just found another reference in Colin Maggs book S&D Life on the Bath to Bournemouth Line. Page 86 for a photo c1935 and then a description of the working of the 2.40 am 'Mail Goods' on page 89. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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