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#1 Ruston

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 19:07

I believe that Peckett & Sons were one of those locomotive manufacturers that left gaps in the works list for some reason.

 

I would like to know what gaps there are in the period 1930-40 as I want to get some works plates made for my X2 and it would be nice to use an unused number in the list, rather than one that I know was used on an X2 because I'm not modelling any particular engine.

 

Does anyone have a a Peckett works list that they could look at to find this information?

 

Thanks,

 

Dave



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Posted 12 April 2013 - 21:58

I believe that Peckett & Sons were one of those locomotive manufacturers that left gaps in the works list for some reason.

 

I would like to know what gaps there are in the period 1930-40 as I want to get some works plates made for my X2 and it would be nice to use an unused number in the list, rather than one that I know was used on an X2 because I'm not modelling any particular engine.

 

Does anyone have a a Peckett works list that they could look at to find this information?

 

Thanks,

 

Dave

 

 

A quick scan through the Peckett works list shows that 52 X2s were built between the first 1094 in 1906 and the last 1891 in 1940.  Rather surprisingly they were all built in pairs with consecutive works numbers, though mostly for different customers, except for the last two, the very last being 1891 of 1940 the subject of the prototype photo in your Peckett X2 Topic - Post #7. 

 

Two pairs, 1234/5 and 1241/2 have vacant works numbers between, i.e. 1236-1240, but these would be have to be dated 1910 or 1911.

 

For the 1930-1940 period there are lots of gaps -

 

1792-1800; 1809; 1814/5; 1817-19; 1825/6; 1831-34; 1838-40; 1855-58; 1862-4; 1875/6; 1881-1888; 1898/9; 1910-1918; 1928/9; 1944-46; 1956; 1958/9; 1962; 1973/4; 1989; 1991/2

 

Take your pick !


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 22:28

Thanks, Philip. I think I'll have 1888 of 1940.

 

Now I've just got to order some nameplates. I'm going to have British naval heroes of the 18th/19th century as a theme for my fleet (fleet, get it? OK, I'l get me coat.. ) . I've already got one Peckett named Lord Nelson so this one is going to be Admiral Duncan.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:40

This is a handy illustrated list although not complete.

 

http://www.martynban...ckett/locos.htm

 

PS 1889 was of 1935


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:54

Thanks, Philip. I think I'll have 1888 of 1940.

 

Now I've just got to order some nameplates. I'm going to have British naval heroes of the 18th/19th century as a theme for my fleet (fleet, get it? OK, I'l get me coat.. ) . I've already got one Peckett named Lord Nelson so this one is going to be Admiral Duncan.

 

The Peckett works list is unusual as, apart from the gaps in works numbers, the dates are not always consecutive.  I think the reason for this is that locos were built, or perhaps started, to their standard designs in batches and allocated works numbers but not actually completed or sold until some time later.

 

Consider the list between the last two X2s:

 

1869           was ex works 3/1934

1870/1        ex works  9/1934

1872           ex works 1/1940

1873           ex works 6/1934

1874           ex works 12/1935

1877-9        ex works 10/1934

1880           ex works 5/1935

1889           ex works 12/1934

1890           ex works 1/1936

1891           ex works 2/1940

 

after 1891 there were 57 locos with ex works dates of 1935 to 1939 before the next with a 1940 date - 1969. 

 

So for your theoretical X2 a works number of 1888 with a date of 1940 is possible, assuming like 1891 it was started, allocated a works number but took some time before a customer was found, or from the above you may perhaps consider a date in the mid to late 1930s more suitable.

 

1889 was ex works on 31/12/1934, so may have had 1935 on the plate although clearly it must have been built in 1934.  It was minus works plates when I saw it at Marine Colliery, South Wales in 1975.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:56

And there I was thinking you were naming them after local pubs!



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 21:49

Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps 1936 would be better as the year.

 

And there I was thinking you were naming them after local pubs!

I know there's the Admiral Duncan down Thornes but where's the Lord Nelson?



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:43

Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps 1936 would be better as the year.

 

I know there's the Admiral Duncan down Thornes but where's the Lord Nelson?

Crigglestone - but not for long, it's being demolished for housing.  It's the one on the 'Z' bend at the top of the village.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 16:11

More of my childhood fading away if I came back to walk from Hall Green into Wakefield I don't think I would recognise the way to the Crigg WMC



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 20:28

The original Peckett engine register is held at the NRM Library, York and is, I believe, available for inspection by appointment.  A Peckett Works List was compiled by Frank Jux in 1987, verified against that register, and was distributed by the Industrial Locomotive Society.

 

The gaps in the list were perhaps for repeat orders that never came!









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