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I haven't posted for a while, I'm afraid Mrs Wenlock has decided that the house needs decorating. Funny how painting walls is nowhere near as satisfying as painting models! The William Clarke goods shed has progressed to the stage where the walls are cut out, but I'm suffering from a lack of motivation to finish it. I think the time spent constucting the station building, got cutting plastic card out of my system for a while! One of the things that I love about this hobby of ours, are the number of different processes involved in constructing a layout. They say "A change is as good as a rest", so with that in mind the Plastikard has been put away and a new project has been started!

 

I've fancied building an engine with a tender for a while, so far all the locomotives that I've built have been small tank engines. The Dean Goods has long been one off my favorite locos, so I've been collecting information and photos of the class. I want to model the loco as running in 1907, with a round top firebox, polished brass dome and 2500 gallon tender.

 

I've not built one of Martin Finney's 7mm kits before, but they seem to be well thought off so I've bought a Dean Goods loco kit, along with a 2500 gallon tender kit from him.

 

I'm not sure how frequent, or of what interest the posts will be, but I thought I would take some pictures during the build and chronicle the loco's construction.

 

Chassis and Slaters Plasticard wheels

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The wheels have been chemically blackened and the chassis assembled following the detailed clear instructions included in the kit. Care needs to be taken to ensure that the horn blocks move freely, but once this has been done the beam compensation included in the kit works well.

 

The instructions state at this stage that the body needs to be completed before the chassis can be finished.

 

Tender footplate and water tank substructure

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The slot and tab construction technique makes it easy to achieve a neat square substructure. The tabs were folded over and then soldered using solder paste and a mini flame.

 

The tank overlay is then wrapped around the substructure after forming the flare and soldered in position.

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Buffer beams and valances

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Front and back steps, buffer beams and valances in situ.

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Sand boxes, coal plates and tank filler

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Flare corners soldered then shaped and coal rails in situ. I'm not really happy with these, to my eye they are one of the weaker parts of the kit. The prototype rails are round in cross section, the flat etched brass doesn't simulate this at all well. I'm not sure what to do about it, I may try to solder some half round wire to thicken the rails.

 

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Brake, water scoop standards and sand boxes in situ

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Rear hand rails, lamp irons, steps and buffers.

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Tool boxes, water feed valves and pipes

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That sees the body almost completed, so work can begin on finishing the chassis, which I'll save for the next "thrilling" instalment!

 

Thanks for reading

 

Dave

 

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I assumed the loop was for the steam heat pipe. Some photos do show the fixed pipe emerging from beneath the buffer beam in this position.  Remember that Dean Goods were widely used for passenger services. There are one or two pre-WW1 photos showing this, although the only one I could find quickly with definite evidence of steam heating (steam from leaking pipes) is from the forties. It may just be that most of the photos of them on passenger services were taken in the summer months.

 

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Hmmm not sure what to do now!  You can't see on my picture of 2467 whether the tender has a steam pipe or not. 

 

This throws up anumber of questions-

 

1.  If I don't fit the steam pipe, should the loop be removed from the buffer beam?

2.  If i do decide to fit the steam pipe, what should it look like? 

 

I've attached a picture of the castings that come with the kit, but I'm unsure how to use them.  On the sprue there are two    castings I assume the one on the left is for the free end of the vacuum pipe.  If the one on the right side is the steam pipe, should the end where it attaches to the sprue be the end that is soldered into the buffer beam?

 

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I've asked a general question on the gwr-elist on whether steam pipe fitting was standard for tenders on goods locos. (For your era, I suspect not.)

 

I think the casting on the left of your pic is the vapour trap. The position for this on the steam pipe can be seen on: http://www.raymondwalley.com/loco/gwr/armstrong.html

 

The 7mm MOK kit in the above pic doesn't look like it's got a loop, so maybe this is a Finney-ism for somewhere to insert the steam cock casting.

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Dave

 

I've asked a general question on the gwr-elist on whether steam pipe fitting was standard for tenders on goods locos. (For your era, I suspect not.)

 

I think the casting on the left of your pic is the vapour trap. The position for this on the steam pipe can be seen on: http://www.raymondwalley.com/loco/gwr/armstrong.html

 

The 7mm MOK kit in the above pic doesn't look like it's got a loop, so maybe this is a Finney-ism for somewhere to insert the steam cock casting.

Thanks Miss P. I'll look forward to hearing the results of the question on the GWR elist.

 

Raymond's Armstrong is a fabulous bit of modelling, Im looking forward to seeing pictures of it painted!

 

I think you maybe right about the loop, it does provide a good fixing point for the steam pipe. I'll await further information before I cut it off though!

 

Dave

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The gwr-elist enquiry has drawn a blank so far other than guru John Lewis' quip of "I am not sure that all coaches had steam pipes by 1905!".

 

The only reference I can find in Harris is "Non-corridor stock without steam heating was still being built up to 1901." From which I presume corridor stock, apart from possibly the very early types, was always fitted with steam heating, and I guess pre-1901 non-corridor stock was gradually retrofitted, although we don't know the kind of timescale involved in that retrofitting.

 

It doesn't get us very far though on the tender question, and I'm still inclined to think for a Dean Goods in 1905 the steam pipe and attachments are unlikely to have been fitted.

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Hi Miss P. I liked John's quip! He is of course right, the early 1900's would have been the dawn of "modern" innovations like steam heating of carriages. I've read about stone bottles being filled with hot water and given to the passengers at stations prior to this! I think I'm going to go with your instinct and not fit the steam pipes to my model of 2467. If we accept that heated carriages had ony been recently introduced, then it makes sense to me that locos who's primary duties were passenger workings would have fitted first.

 

Thanks again for your help and interest.

 

Dave

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