For some reason I have ended up with a few ex LMS engines

first up

a Crab... Wills kit built by Nicktoix, chassis by Mike Edge

next up a Model Loco Black 5 with a Portescap motor bought second hand..

and as way of comparison a Hornby Black 5. Tim Easter started the mods to this at BRM Doncaster this year and I have just finished it

and as another comparison on of my Ks Black 5s - built by my father painted and lined by me