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Signal Box for Sherton Abbas part 2


wenlock

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Before I moved onto step and handrail construction, I decided to make a start on the roof. The roof components that the kit provides were assembled together with Liquid Poly and once dry tried on top of the signal box. To my eye the overhang on the roof looked much too wide and gave the building a strange continental appearance.

Overersize roof

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I measured the overhang and calculated that it worked out as a scale 18 inches all round which sounded far too much. I decided that the easiest way to rectify the situation and give a more normal overhang was to remove one slate width from a side and along the ridge line. Unfortunately the roof barge boards are part of the roof mouldings so needed to be removed and then repositioned once the roof had been cut down.

Cutting down roof to size

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Once the roof had been cut down the two halves were joined togethe using more Liquid Poly and the barge boards and finials added. I'm not sure that the finials are really the right shape for a GWR signal box, so I may replace them with some finials from MSE's range of signal components.

Assembled Roof

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Once the roof had dried it was positioned back on the building to check its appearance. I think the proportions of the building look better with the reduced roof overhang, hopefully others will too!

Roof positioned in situ

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I wasn't looking forward to tackling the steps, I've always found getting the tread/riser relationship a bit tricky! The sides were cut from 30thou Plasticard and attached to the landing area in front of the porch with more Liquid Poly. Once this had dried the Newel posts and treads were added using more plastic card.

Steps and newel posts

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Half joints were then cut into the tops of the handrail support posts where the handrails were to be fitted. The handrails were cut from 30 thou plastic card sheet and fitted to the newel posts using Liquid Poly. Once everything had dried overnight the handrails/newel posts were lightly sanded using a fine emery board. Before I could add tiles to the porch roof I needed to make a supporting substructure. This was just cut from 20 thou sheet and glued on top of the porch walls and allowed to dry.

Handrails and roof substructure

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The slates were represented by using Slaters Plastikard embossed sheet, cut into strips and applied to the substructure.

Addition of roof slates

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The kit provides some quite nice mouldings for the windows so these were removed from the sprue and tried in place. I need to paint the signal box before I fit them, but I couldn't resist taking a picture of them held in situ using some blue tack!

Windows in Situ

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I'm generally happy with the final proportions of the box and using the Peco Kit as a starting point has certainly helped speed up construction time. The box will be situated fairly close to the front of my layout, so I need to source or make some signal levers and associated equipment because the interior of the box is going to be quite visible. I also need to make a name plate for the box. I know Slaters make some moulded alphabets, but if there's a better way of making a plate then I'd be very pleased to be pointed in the right direction!

 

Hopefully the next post should see the box painted and ready to install on the layout.

 

Best wishes

 

Dave

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  • RMweb Gold

Get you with your correct architectural terminology.

lol!  I'm trying to look as if I know what I'm doing!

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  • RMweb Gold

lol!  I'm trying to look as if I know what I'm doing!

 

It's working! 

 

Lovely piece of modelling.

 

Mark

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Dave,

 

What an improvement your re-sized roof makes!!!  I can't believe that the Peco roof is so over-sized.  I agree and do think that the finials need replacement with something more GWR-like.  The steps look safe enough to climb to me :-)

 

Ian

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  • RMweb Gold

Looks much better Dave. To be really nit picking I wonder if the GWR would have used 1+1/2 Slates evry other course at the verges rather than 1/2 slates and no you didn't cut them off Peco had 1/2 slates. For quality work the larger slates were used to keep the offsets right. Mind you when doing repairs guess who used some half slates .

Don

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It's working! 

 

Lovely piece of modelling.

 

Mark

Thanks Mark! :-)

 

Dave,

 

What an improvement your re-sized roof makes!!!  I can't believe that the Peco roof is so over-sized.  I agree and do think that the finials need replacement with something more GWR-like.  The steps look safe enough to climb to me :-)

 

Ian

Thanks Ian! Yes the Peco roof is weird, I guess they are trying to make a building that appeals to the maximum customer base and that means Europe! I think I will probably replace the finials with some 4mm signal offerings from MSE, I reckon the 7mm ones would be too big. Glad you think the steps look ok!:-)

 

Looks much better Dave. To be really nit picking I wonder if the GWR would have used 1+1/2 Slates evry other course at the verges rather than 1/2 slates and no you didn't cut them off Peco had 1/2 slates. For quality work the larger slates were used to keep the offsets right. Mind you when doing repairs guess who used some half slates .

Don

Hi Don, slate roofing is something I know more or less nothing about so any information is very useful! I like the idea of some 1+1/2 slates, I think I might rub some filler into the relevent slates and see what I can come up with!

 

Best wishes

 

Dave

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  • RMweb Gold

 

 

a strange continental appearance

 

Oi, what are you on about?!

 

Seriously though Dave, I see your point, your first photo reminded me of this signalbox from Ryaa here in Denmark: http://www.mjk-h0.dk/evp_Df/3513-208.69.III-FFJ-HLA,%20signalpost,%20Ryaa,%2017.8.1963,.jpg

 

Yours looks much more British (and better proportioned) after your modification. And much more GWR'ish! 

 

Don, your comment about the slates are interesting, I've never noticed that. I had a look around the web and found these - for what it's worth -  although I suppose the roofs may have been relaid several times since GWR times:

 

https://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/018-2013-south-devon-railway-buckfastleigh-signal-box.jpg

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/36034969@N08/6983571548/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/davydutchy/14769279035/

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  • RMweb Gold

Oi, what are you on about?!

 

Seriously though Dave, I see your point, your first photo reminded me of this signalbox from Ryaa here in Denmark: http://www.mjk-h0.dk/evp_Df/3513-208.69.III-FFJ-HLA,%20signalpost,%20Ryaa,%2017.8.1963,.jpg

 

Yours looks much more British (and better proportioned) after your modification. And much more GWR'ish! 

 

Don, your comment about the slates are interesting, I've never noticed that. I had a look around the web and found these - for what it's worth -  although I suppose the roofs may have been relaid several times since GWR times:

 

https://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/018-2013-south-devon-railway-buckfastleigh-signal-box.jpg

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/36034969@N08/6983571548/

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/davydutchy/14769279035/

 

Hi Mikkel,

 

Lol!  Yes I could have phrased that a little better!  No offence intended :-)  That little box at Ryaa is rather lovely, I wonder if I should include a horse shoe above the door on my model!

 

I've applied a little filler to the roof slates which I'm  hoping once sanded should look like 1 and half width slates, hopefully Don will approve!

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  • RMweb Gold

The big question then is whether the horseshoe should point up or down - I understand there are two different approaches to that!

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  • RMweb Gold

The big question then is whether the horseshoe should point up or down - I understand there are two different approaches to that!

Yes that's a bit of a dilemma! Apparently, well according to Mrs Wenlock:-) If the shoe points up then witches can sit in the bend, if the shoe points down then all the luck runs out! Tricky business this railway modelling lark!

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It points down if you live in Rutland*.

Elsewhere, superstition rules and it points up.

 

*Where I live. We had GNR, LNWR and MR, plus some industrial lines, but the GWR didn't get this far east, so your horseshoe is most likely to point up.

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  • RMweb Gold

It points down if you live in Rutland*.

Elsewhere, superstition rules and it points up.

 

*Where I live. We had GNR, LNWR and MR, plus some industrial lines, but the GWR didn't get this far east, so your horseshoe is most likely to point up.

Thanks Simon:-)  

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