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Honley Tank's Two old C13s resurrected


Dave at Honley Tank

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Well! At long last the two new chassis are running acceptably.

At least they are running far better then ever in their long history. On 'Birch Vale' they operate as well as my expectations. They are not so good on 'Bowton's Yard', but that is more due to my track making skills than my chassis making skills.

 

When I was building 'Bowton's Yard' I deliberately used several track making methods in an effort to decide on what I thought to be the best method to suit my needs. Remember that this is a layout designed to use S4 track and wheel standards. I used ply-&-rivet with cosmetic white-metal chairs: working w-m chairs and cyano to ply; working plastic chairs and MEK on ply and PC board sleepers/timbers off-scene. I also tried steel rail as well as N-S rail. In fact it's a right hotch-potch. However the experience set me up nicely when I renewed all the track on 'Birch Vale' using steel rail on ply sleepers with plastic chairs, and MEK. The end result is that 'Birch Vale track is all that could be desired, but that hotch-potch that is 'Bowton's Yard should really have all the track-work renewed.

 

'Bowton's is a freight only branch and the Gorton C13s were lovingly looked after and used almost exclusively on weekday, suburban passenger trains in the Manchester London Rd area, being rested or maintained over the weekend, when J10s, J11s, J39s or anything that was available, looked after the local traffic duty. Accordingly, my models work acceptably on the layout they were intended for. and had the Bowton's Yard branch really existed, C13s would have been very rare visitors (it's freight only!)

 

Here's eight pictures that are various views of the new units with their cloths on and then some of the naked chassis (naughty or what?)blogentry-1295-0-79673000-1429541476.jpgblogentry-1295-0-41466400-1429541477.jpgblogentry-1295-0-89697000-1429541477.jpgblogentry-1295-0-36441200-1429541478.jpgblogentry-1295-0-09458900-1429541479.jpgblogentry-1295-0-56261000-1429541479.jpgblogentry-1295-0-14047800-1429541480.jpgblogentry-1295-0-62195300-1429541480.jpg

 

 

No captions; If something is not obvious, then please ask on here.

 

 

The C13's will now have a few weeks rest before detailing starts, because Honley Tank has agreed to start converting a Bachmann Lightweight DMU to

S4 wheels ready to do occasional passenger service on 'Birch Vale'.

 

Having already done a survey of this split-axle RTR unit, I can see why none of our wheel traders are offering a conversion kit! Looks to be an interesting challenge.

 

More next time perhaps. Enjoy your modelling,

 

Dave

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Hi David.

Glad to hear that the C13's are running well. Always satisfying when a plan comes together.

I converted a Bachmann Class 105, Cravens unit using conversion wheels from Branchlines (I think). It was very straight forward. I'm not sure if the power bogies use the same mechanism, but it would be odd if they didn't. Certainly worth checking out before you start.

Dave.

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Thanks you three for the reminder about Branchlines. Thanks too to 'Pannier Tank' for his "Like" tick.

 

Is the Bachy 105 also split-axle? I agree with Dave that it would be odd of Bachy to design different types; but they do do odd things!

 

i checked Ultrascale, and I 'spoke' (e-mail) with Colin at Gibby's. His comment when I referred to the weird method of spli-axle was along the lines of..."Why do you think I don't do a drop-in set?"

 

I'll check the Branchlines route, but that model engineering challenge is starting to appeal!!!!!

 

Dave

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Hi Dave,

 

I have a Derby Lightweight converted with the Branchlines set. It is an easy job - save your engineering skills for something that there is no easy solution for! It runs well on Slattocks along with a Bachmann 108 which doesn't have a Branchlines set but some converted wagon wheels which are shorted at the rims and some Biro tube. They both run perfectly well but the 108 took a lot longer to convert.

 

Ralph

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Thanks Ralph,

 

I knew about your 108 but I was unaware that it was split axle.

I've already tried to order from Branchlines but 'phone was on answer mode so I'm waiting for him to get back to me.

 

However I think I could use the Bachmann wheels by re-profiling the tyre, turning of the pin point, then centre drilling through which would take the stubb shaft but not the larger dia section behind the wheel disk. Add half a 2mm pin-point axle and re=join with Bachmann's sleave.

The motorised axles could have same treatment but with a plain 2mm axle stubb and into the gear cog.

 

I might try that, ready to convert another Derby Lightweight, but one of the "Manchester Group". Mine's from the "Carlisle Group" but I have invented a story which allows its use over the Hayfield Branch.!

 

Dave

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