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Lincoln central

by arff999

original page on Old RMweb

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??? posted on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:47 pm

Hi any one out there got any plans of the above im planning to model this in HO but struggling to get any plans

JOHN.

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Comment posted by si_berian_tiger on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:50 pm

Look on google maps for a pre-remodelling layout, although it hasnt changed too much to be honest. There are plenty of photos on fotopic etc which should answer any questions.

If you need a particular to shot, let me know. I might have one, or I can get it very easily. I'm planning the same location in n gauge!

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Comment posted by dave_long on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Try having a look at the planning portal. Not sure if they've updated the site yet.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk you'll need to do a Appeals search toget to the maps.

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Comment posted by beast66606 on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:55 pm

http://www.trackmaps.co.uk

No.2 - Eastern

hth,

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??? posted on Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:08 pm

Thanks guys

i have a number of drawing suppled by a mate of mine from a local club i`ve been having a play with any rail and xcad but seem unable to get it right .

looking to go between the hign street and the fly over but cant seam to get the distace right i think its about 1500 yard which i think works out at 17 feet in scale

JOHN

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Comment posted by Nick Holliday on Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:23 pm

If it really is 1500 yards, then it scales out rather larger than you think. 1500 yards is 4,500 feet, and in HO that scales 15,570 mm which in real money is around 50 feet! I couldn't see the High Street when I looked on the Planning Portal, otherwise I would have tried to produce a scale plan.

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Comment posted by Pyewipe Jct on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:43 am

arff999 wrote:

Thanks guys

i have a number of drawing suppled by a mate of mine from a local club i`ve been having a play with any rail and xcad but seem unable to get it right .

looking to go between the hign street and the fly over but cant seam to get the distace right i think its about 1500 yard which i think works out at 17 feet in scale

JOHN

Hello John,

I've just measured the distance between the eastern side of High Street and the western side of Pelham bridge on my digital copy of the Lincoln OS map (which dates from the early 90s, I believe) & it's just under 359m - or 4.13m at 1:87 scale, if my maths is correct.

Kevin

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??? posted on Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:38 pm

Not sure how to work out the scale accuratly so ill have to go with you guys on this

i worked it out this way

1500 feet x 12 inches = 18000 inches / 72 (scale)=250 inches / 12 = 20.83 feet long i have no idea if this is right or not

JOHN.

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Comment posted by si_berian_tiger on Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:49 pm

I use this method:

Prototype length in Metres / Scale = Scale length.

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Comment posted by Nick Holliday on Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:30 pm

Having pulled a fairly detailed scale plan off the Planning Portal as suggested, I would agree with Kevin's measurement of around 360 metres, which works out as roughly 1,200 feet. If you are working in HO then, as Kevin said, the overall scale length is 360 m divided by the scale ratio of 1:87, which results in 4.13 m or 13 feet 7 inches. The equivalent ratio for OO gauge is 1:76.2, which gives you 4.72 m or 15 feet 6 inches. The other way of calculating this is using 4mm to the foot, for OO gauge, (3.5mm for HO gauge) so you just multiply the length in feet by 4, which would give you 4.8m, or just under 16 feet. This dimension is between the flyover and where the High Street crosses, so it only covers the passenger station and platforms.

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??? posted on Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:57 pm

Thanks for the info on scales it was very usefull

Being a new member whos been lurking here for a while before joining i thought i time to ask some possable silly questions.

I ended up getting a dynamics DCC system and a class 20 from digitrains and very pleased with them i am

how easy is it to paste from xcad to allow my plan to be show as i have no idea on how to do it also normal picture of some things already done

JOHN

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Comment posted by si_berian_tiger on Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:12 pm

John,

This thread http://rmweb.co.uk/f...hp?f=28&t=21614 explains how to upload images to the forum.

Trackplan can be saved as a .bmp file in xtrkcad in the same way as you would save a file in any other program. File > Save As > then select the correct file type.

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??? posted on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:51 pm

hope this works

file.php?id=66349

john

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??? posted on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:53 pm

Hope the plan got posted and i did it ok

Let me know what you think I know its just the first go but it looks ok to me but you may disagree comments please

JOHN

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Comment posted by si_berian_tiger on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:58 pm

Looks like a well drawn plan.

Just one small issue, and I would imagine you did this to save building a custom point, but the points serving the west end of what is now platforms 4/5 (at the bottom of your plan) should be a 3 way in your plan. The change to 2 seperate points did not happen until the 2008 remodelling.

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??? posted on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:05 pm

Sorry posted the wrong plan i spotted that and made a change will ttry to post the other plan tomorrow after work i have some scale drawings of the station buildings i need to get resized at work tomorrow if i get time

im not sure on custom making turn outs or if its possable to get them made ?

John

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Comment posted by si_berian_tiger on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:13 pm

Custom made points/turnouts are available. A quick glance in the March 09 RM has an advert for Marcway Pointwork (Marcway Models & Hobbies).

I couldnt tell you what they are like to deal with, or the quality of their products. Advert say they can built to 'OO' gauge, but this should be compatible with 'HO'.

No doubt someone with much more knowledge will be along shortly.......

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Comment posted by Flying Pig on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:32 pm

http://www.roscalen....ncoln/index.htm has useful photos of the Pelham St and High Street ends of the station as they were in 1983, which match your plan pretty well, with one or two minor differences. By the time the station was resignalled last year, a couple of the bays (platforms 1 and 2) were out of use, as shown by the 2008 signalling diagram on http://www.photrek.c...ilmapheader.htm and it would be interesting to know when this change took place.

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Comment posted by twa_dogs on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:55 pm

might this prove useful?

http://www.photrek.c...ilmapheader.htm

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??? posted on Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:01 pm

Spent most off last night at work working on the layout plan i managed to get with the help of the cad drawing guys, a scale HO 1-1 drawing of the total track plan and station layout it works out at 17 feet and a few inches i overlayed some off the peco scale turn out plans and it looked good, took up most of the table in the work shop though,worked out at 32 turn outs,crossovers, single slips and doubles

The question is it has the fish dock on it and also the cattle loading areas to the east end also the carrage loading platforms and platform no 8 i dont know when these were removed and im not sure weather to incorporate them or not i was thinking of removing the fish dock leaving the carrage area and platform 8not sur what to do about the cattle area to the east.

what do you think ?

John

will try tp post a pic of the over all plan if i can get touse the work shop tonight .

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??? posted on Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:09 pm

Here are the track plans i had done at work ive been messing around with them gettins sizes

see what you think

JOHN

file.php?id=67573