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Delph - Caprotti Black 5 nearly there


Dave Holt

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The Caprotti Black 5 has been making steady progress over the past few weeks. I started the chassis ages ago but only since (almost) finishing the Crab have I really concentrated on finishing off the Caprotti.
The rear sand boxes and all the sand pipes are still to do, along with the front guard irons on the bogie.
I joined the Leamingtom MR Society earlier this year and have been able to try the loco out on Clarendon (a bit out of place on an early 1900's LNWR layout!). This has shown up some issues regarding the front bogie wheels rubbing behind the cylinder drain cocks and motion brackets/front brake hangers on tightish curves and some points. I've filed various bits away to try yo solve this but only another running trial will tell if I've succeeded.
Here a a few photos of the current state:
A couple of overall views, side on and front three-quarters,

 

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Rhe front platform height on Stanier tenders was adjusted to suit the class of loco they were attached to. The Comet kit platform is too low to match the cab height of the loco, so a 1 mm thick piece of plastic card has been added to get somewhere nearer the correct arrangement.

 

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Nice work, Dave. I look forward to seeing it finished. Good to see someone with discerning taste! I was very familiar with these locos as, in the early 1960s, Southport shed (27C/8M) had a small batch of them. Like most of the rest of Southport's allocation they were in fairly terrible condition. Some people regard them as ugly, can't imagine why . . .

Southport often ended up with oddities as we also had 44686/44687 and the Stephenson loco 44767. All in the same miserable condition I'm afraid.

 

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Thanks both for the kind comments.

I think I side more with Killybegs regarding their aesthetics. Compared with normal Black 5's, the inside Caprotti engines were rather ungainly but with lots of interesting features.

I haven't got the number plate yet, but the loco is intended to be 44741, which was a Longsight engine and so possibly seen at "Holt" on excursion traffic. It's intended to be weathered but not too filthy.

Wrong number, but it might look quite appropriate at Barrow Road.......

 

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Liking that very much Dave.  I hope it is heavy and has a big motor. I went round to Robin's last night and we were discussing requirements for loco hauling power. 11 coaches pretty typical up Fishponds bank.

 

Cheers....Morgan 

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Southport often ended up with oddities as we also had 44686/44687 and the Stephenson loco 44767. All in the same miserable condition I'm afraid.

I recall reading an article by a retired engineman where he stated that the Stephenson loco was unofficially rated by crews as equal to a class 6. Anyone know what the engine men thought of the Caprotti class 5s?

 

Nice work. Ugly? Yes. Impressive looking? Yes.

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Generally, I believe skins and rice puddings sums it up! I think this came about because the sharper bark at the chimney cause many driver to shorten the cut-off too much. Many old hands drove by the sound rather than reading the cut-off scale on the reverser and it was made worse by an error in the engraved marks that resulted in an even shorter cut-off than indicated (later corrected, but the reputation for weakness stuck). They were considered to be very fleet-of-foot on the level and would coast for miles.

The outside gear locos and BR Standards were far superior, the latter matching A4's turn for turn on Glasgow to Aberdeen trains in the mid '60's.

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