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at Swan Hill January '23


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January '23 at Swan Hill... Telegraph poles are being fabricated and placed, the signal box is more or less complete with the little brackets under the eaves fitted, an essential bit which was missing from the earlier pictures, and the box now settled into its place on the layout.  It's supposed to work as a scenic break in that it divides the view from the control panel roughly into two halves, terminus one end and 'up branch' at the other end.  1043710814_1040261.jpg.cd360656077b3ad8d3f6488b5eef2417.jpg

The telegraph poles are scratch built using insulators from the Peco kit, the rest of which wasn't used:  the posts are made up from jelutong offcuts, 4 pieces glued together and shaped in the lathe.  The laminated assembly should keep the posts straight over time.  The ground ends are turned to 5mm diameter and set in aluminium tubes (1/4" diameter) so the posts can be removed easily. Cross trees are 1.5mm ply drilled for either straight wire "brackets" for intermediate posts or little U shaped brackets for terminal or lead-out posts.  I'm not adding wires which are mostly invisible in photos.  I'm indebted to Wenlock at Sherton Abbas for convincing me to have a go at telegraph posts at all and to various sources not least of which is the Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society and also "Warwickshire Railways" https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_equip192.htm.  Basic dimensional information for poles, cross trees etc comes from a very useful paper on the subject but it isn't signed or titled and I cannot remember where it came from - possibly a reference on the Sherton Abbas blog but the quoted link seems not to work so I can't check.  If I can turn up the weblink, I'll edit this post accordingly.

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The telegraph poles look great. I also enjoyed reading the "Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society" website , all sorts of wonderful stuff on there. 

 

Interesting to see that the GWR interleaved cross and through arms, the CR tended to have a block of each. Little details like that are appreciated. 

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19 hours ago, Dave John said:

The telegraph poles look great. I also enjoyed reading the "Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society" website , all sorts of wonderful stuff on there. 

 

Interesting to see that the GWR interleaved cross and through arms, the CR tended to have a block of each. Little details like that are appreciated. 

 

Thanks Dave.  This Getty Images reference has two examples of the interleaved arms - I don't think they are particularly commonplace but where there is an abrupt change in direction of the lines, as at Swan Hill oppposite the signal box, they seem to be the GWR solution. 
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/great-western-railway-6000-class-king-george-i-steam-news-photo/930165950?phrase=great western railway%20 1930s&adppopup=true. Incidentally, the poles illustrated in the Getty image are definately the "heavy" pole rather than the medium or light:  they are pretty massive - again, I've tried to model that. (Mikkel explained how he embeds Getty Images but I haven't got the trick of it!).

 

Otherwise, the GWR preferred option for taking lines out of route seems to be the 'T' shaped cross arm (ie a normal cross arm with another added to form a T shape as per the Warwickshire Railways reference above). In regular lines of poles, there is the GWR characteristic arrangement of alternating long

arms / short arms although that's by no means "standard". Complete sets of long arms, usualy with 4 insulators each arm, appear regularly and some with more than 4 insulators. Apart from the interlaced pole, the rest fitted at Swan Hill follow the more characteristic GWR alternating long/short pattern.

 

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Good to see an update from Swan Hill. 

 

I zoomed in on the signal box and it was like just like real photos taken from ground level. Impressive.

 

I'm trying to work out what side the backscene will need on, if any?

 

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Thanks Mikkel - I don't know why the signal box took me so long but apart from staircase handrailing and rooftop ventilator (can't find a drawing of one at the moment), it's about done.

 

5 hours ago, Mikkel said:

I'm trying to work out what side the backscene will need on, if any?

...good question! I took the picture of the signal box from the "wrong side" of the layout (by guesswork and a bluetooth remote shutter release).  I always conceived of the layout as being properly three dimensional with no viewing side or backscene side - I did think that an "end scene" might work where the viaduct runs into the (Swan) hill: something like this...backscene.jpg.624ac9111192dff90b36c5bca3df1f45.jpg

 

but although, when I look at the layout, I see something like that (in my imagination), whether it could be got to work I don't (yet)  know.  I've been making sketches about the two or three buildings which would be low relief on the wall side of the layout and have wandered through building history from an 1830s brick warehouse to a Hennebique type of ferro-cement building (as at Bristol Canon's Marsh) of about 1906: Edwardian, but not as we usually think of it and something the GWR was quite keen on - more of that later though.

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That's interesting with the ferro-cement idea. I have sometimes looked at those photos of the newly built Canon's March and wondered what the material was. Thanks for clarifying that. And as you say, it could be a good way to indicate the Edwardian optimism and modernity, which our romantic portrayals of the era tend to leave out.

 

I'll be taking notes on how you solve the challenge of having the layout viewable from both sides, something I'd like to do with my main platforms too.

 

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