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Stanier Diag 2117 coach conversion.


the penguin of doom

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Hi all.

 

I posted an entry in the questions section re this, (check it out before you ask why I didn't use the comet sides....), but basically found an Airfix corridor composite in the loft and so thought I'd try to upgrade it to the standard of the recent Hornby ex LMS coaches. I don't intend it to be an exact 100% representation, but more something different to run in the rake.

 

Whilst researching, I found the Diag 2117's lasted till 1967ish, so would fit with my period, but would need some carving and extra doors etc.

 

Anywho, it's something to do alongside the mammoth L1 task and will keep me sane if I need to get away from the main project for a while....

 

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The corridor side with the window moved and the first extra door slotted in. Second extra door marked up.

 

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Close up of the area to be altered.

 

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And closer still.

 

I have some Hornby class 110 windows which are an almost exact fit and hopefully near enough top light depth, so I'll be flush glazing the coach and replacing most of the moulded detail. I also intend to replace the underframe with some finer detail and some Bachmann bogies I have in the spares box.

 

Cheers for now.

 

Sean.

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Looking at your pictures, this is the first time I have seen one of these Airfix LMS corridor coaches. I haven't built any postwar 60ft corridor coaches with the extra corridor doors, but if the corridor third is anything to go by, the LMS squeezed the corridor windows to allow more 'meat' either side of the added doors. It would not be a simple conversion doing this....Blimey, it aint simple the conversion you're doing anyway and I take my hat off to you!

 

You said in your intro not to ask why you didn't use comet etched sides, so I won't. Although I will continue to wonder why you didn't.biggrin.gif

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I have to admit I was really thinking in terms of the Third when I said about moving at least two windows; just as in the Mk.1 there's enough space between the windows at the First class end. Well done! Your moved window reminds me of the ones I did in a Lima Mk.2 (FK backdating, 2b to 2) but obviously without the frame area to loose the join.

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Looking at your pictures, this is the first time I have seen one of these Airfix LMS corridor coaches. I haven't built any postwar 60ft corridor coaches with the extra corridor doors, but if the corridor third is anything to go by, the LMS squeezed the corridor windows to allow more 'meat' either side of the added doors. It would not be a simple conversion doing this....Blimey, it aint simple the conversion you're doing anyway and I take my hat off to you!

 

You said in your intro not to ask why you didn't use comet etched sides, so I won't. Although I will continue to wonder why you didn't.biggrin.gif

 

Hi coachmann,

 

Thanks for looking in and may I say firstly, having seen some pictures of your models on the site, I can only aspire to that sort of level. As I say above, this will only be a representation of the Diag 2117, as I don't have the drwings to get everything spot on. I actually looked at the comet drawings on my computer screen and measured them with a ruler to get an idea of where things needed to be and maths was never my strong point!!!! laugh.gif

Just to answer your question, the reason I didn't use the comet side was that I had the coach, bogies etc already, so thought I'd see if I could do a cheap job, based on my experience on my K1 and L1 models.

 

Anyhow, I think its as near as right for now and is waiting for a little more sanding, before I give it some undercoat. Thats when I'll be able to tell if the conversion has worked or not.

 

Cheers for now though.

 

Sean.

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I have to admit I was really thinking in terms of the Third when I said about moving at least two windows; just as in the Mk.1 there's enough space between the windows at the First class end. Well done! Your moved window reminds me of the ones I did in a Lima Mk.2 (FK backdating, 2b to 2) but obviously without the frame area to loose the join.

 

Hi Bernard.

 

Funny you should mention the MK2. I did an FK a few years ago and lo and behold, Bachmann fetch one out. I'm taking bets now on how long it will be till Hornby fetch out a Diag 2117, and since they announced the L1 just as there was no going back on my conversion, I expect it won't be long!!!! laugh.gif

 

Cheers.

 

Sean.

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I had been considering a cut-and-shut of Hornby Second/Third and First class bodyshells, but it's a bit expensive to say the least, hence nothing's happened on that front.

 

Crack on Sean - you've got my interest, cos I need a load of Staniers of reasonable quality, and CK types feature heavily... :unsure:

 

Cheers,

Jamie

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I had been considering a cut-and-shut of Hornby Second/Third and First class bodyshells, but it's a bit expensive to say the least, hence nothing's happened on that front.

 

Crack on Sean - you've got my interest, cos I need a load of Staniers of reasonable quality, and CK types feature heavily... unsure.gif

 

Cheers,

Jamie

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Will do Jamie.

 

As a point of interest, you may be able to find some compo's on e bay. I also have some replica corridor thirds, (2), if you would like them, give me a PM and we'll negotiate a price.

 

Cheers.

 

Sean.

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