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N Gauge Mark 1 Saloon: Adapted For Wheelchairs


Will J

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What follows is an attempt to kitbash/scratch-bodge a carriage conversion within the duration of the Grand Prix on TV this afternoon. (Just to set the tone for peoples expectations of what appears below ;) )

 

I am looking forward to the new Farish Mark One carriages, and will doubtless want to buy a few of them. In the meantime, I am busying myself practising my skills on a drawer full of old Minitrix and Lima examples. They represent a minimal investment in terms of actual money, and whatever the outcome, I figure that they are worth their weight in gold as subjects to practise on (especially when it comes to painting and weathering!)

 

THE PLAN

 

My Victoria Bridge diorama will be all the more realistic for having some of the unique 'modern image steam' rolling stock seen running over it.

 

Things like this Mark One full brake, adapted, with big picture windows, and making use of the double doors, into an innovative solution the needs of passengers in wheelchairs.

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The idea is to create a short rake of crimson and cream Mark One carriages, if nothing else, to practise decorating techniques, and to create a 'cheap and cheerful' rake for the layout, by raiding the spares drawer!

 

Most RTR carriages of a certain vintage seem to approximate the cream colour to a deep, mustardy yellow. The prototype look I am after has a much lighter shade, as seen here not far from the real Victoria Bridge...

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My 'scrapheap challenge' answer, well the main vehicles in the rake will be improved Minitrix products, flush glazed and if I am to do it at all properly, re-bogied (I may well skip this last stage in order to get something running in the short term!)

 

The wheelchair saloon is, as seen in the picture above, shorter in length due to its humble origins. This is an ideal excuse to recycle an old Lima full brake. All of the Lima BR carrages were built to an approximate 1/160 scale, and so are way too short (lengthwise), although oddly not too short in height. By quirk of fate, the full brake was made to the same length, so in the end works out as 'almost sort of to scale'.... Or near enough.

 

So here is this afternoon's bodging. Far from beautiful, but a starting point in concocting a unique vehicle.

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--EDIT---

 

Forgot to attach pic of the Lima end vs. the 'Trix one, with some sympathetic painting, they will match up reasonably well...

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PS.... who would have thought it, somehow the grossly coarse old Lima wheels scoot along reasonably happily on (point-less) 2MM FS track.. this is giving me ideas!

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*Point-less as in without points in the 'turnout' sense of the word.. just in case anybody read it the wrong way :D

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...continuing from Missy's comment on the last blog entry...

 

My usual excuse for avoiding getting into the finer track standards, is an all consuming fear of getting into a muddle trying to make working points. As Victoria Bridge is going to be a simple run through diorama, my excuse hardly counts, so here goes...

 

A package arrived the other day from a forum member

 

(who I know from the 'real world' so I am able to hassle him through all sorts of different means :D )

 

containing the pictured short length of track... I thought the package was going to contain mini eggs but the greedy so-and so had eaten them.

 

The idea here was to experiment with existing N gauge kit and see what would run happily. As it turns out, more than I was expecting. I was amazed that the Lima carriages run without any bother!

 

Above all else, the look of the track makes the Peco stuff sat next to it look bit odd.. strange, as up until opening the mysterious mini egg tube, I would have shrugged my shoulders and reckoned the standard N track was perfectly good enough!

 

(PS Tom, I trust the mini eggs were good!)

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They were... :D

 

In N you really can't beat Easitrac for plain lengths of track. It doesn't just blow code 55 out of the water, it smashes it into a million tiny pieces. As Graham and others have shown elsewhere, it's possible to produce finer scale points that work with standard RTR N stock and I think I for one will probably never use anything other than Easitrac from now-on.

 

Nice work on the coaches Will. Something different from the norm and probably never modelled before!

 

Tom.

 

 

...continuing from Missy's comment on the last blog entry...

 

My usual excuse for avoiding getting into the finer track standards, is an all consuming fear of getting into a muddle trying to make working points. As Victoria Bridge is going to be a simple run through diorama, my excuse hardly counts, so here goes...

 

A package arrived the other day from a forum member

 

(who I know from the 'real world' so I am able to hassle him through all sorts of different means :D )

 

containing the pictured short length of track... I thought the package was going to contain mini eggs but the greedy so-and so had eaten them.

 

The idea here was to experiment with existing N gauge kit and see what would run happily. As it turns out, more than I was expecting. I was amazed that the Lima carriages run without any bother!

 

Above all else, the look of the track makes the Peco stuff sat next to it look bit odd.. strange, as up until opening the mysterious mini egg tube, I would have shrugged my shoulders and reckoned the standard N track was perfectly good enough!

 

(PS Tom, I trust the mini eggs were good!)

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Hi

great topic

you mention the coach colours being lighter on the prototypes to the modelled ones. I use to work (well volunteer) for the svr many years ago in the carriage repair workshop at Kidderminster. The coaches would come in all battered and the paint work would be all different shades of crimson due to the bleaching affect from the sun. We would strip all the old paint off, prime them and repaint into a much darker crimson, which would be very much like the modelled types.

 

if you want to go for a true representation of the line I would vary the shades from a very light crimson, with suitable weathering and marks right the way though to a brand new repainted coach.

 

we were only able to repaint a coach every 6 to 10 weeks due to the amount of work and man power available. it was a bit like painting the forth bridge, you get the end and have start all over again.

 

 

 

 

Any news about producing the bridge for people to buy?:D

 

 

 

 

Once again fantastic work :icon_thumbsup2:

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Any news about producing the bridge for people to buy?:D

 

Getting closer, I am just sorting out some of the details of the (slightly simplified) internal structure. I need to go and have another close look at the real thing. Before too long, I hope to have a basic structure with the detailed 'texture' layer that I could send in the post. I ought to make it 'lock together' with a bit of work so it can be easily glued together without a jig. Watch this space!

 

 

Thanks for the advice regarding carriages.. Im not sure whether I'm unusual in finding carriage modelling more interesting than the locomotives, I suppose in N gauge, a carriage model remains a fairly simple project to take on in terms of time, resources and modelling aptitude! (I have limited supplies of all of these, but I am getting more confidence in the last one!)

 

Next blog entry, coming soon (ish): the challenges of Easitrack and my slighly geriatric collection of models.. is this the end for my Ivatt?

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