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we're doomed


mr magnolia

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trip to Glasgow on the train,did some work(!) (it snowed in Glasgow, briefly) read a bit about progress on the Airdrie-Bathgate line en route; back via the soon-to-be-history East Coast Glasgow to London, off at Motherwell and then continue later from Bellshill via the fantastic (for those like me that travel from Embra to Bellshill frequently) new semi-fast service from Bellshill to Embra to pick up the girls from after school club and away for a little taster tennis lesson for them at the community tennis court. felt good about life.

 

Home and homework, baths, bed for the wee ones, a little shunting for me (04 back on the rails - all I've done is apply the dyson to it very closely in pursuance of the art of coarse railway modelling!) and prepare childrens kit for the morning. Wife arrives home 10 minutes ago bearing tidings of Tory rule. Can't bring myself to check out the real world just yet.

 

Sounds like Mr Clegg has truly shafted Mr Brown. If so, he's truly shafted the Lib Dems in Scotland and taken us here in fortress Scotland (and possibly the Harlech mob too) another giant step towards independence - like it or not.

 

help. I've just looked at the BBC website. Its all true. We ARE doomed.

 

Just looked further at the BBC website and realised its 25 yrs since the Bradford fire. Having recently left Bradford at that point in my life and taken up residence in York, I was still a frequent visitor to Valley Parade and in those pre-mobile days it took my mum 3 or 4 days to get hold of me to check that I wasn't there that day. Even if I hd, i would have been in the opposite stand, watching it. I think I'd been at the last home game against West Brom (cup match?) and gave the ill fated one a miss.

 

I'm beginning to feel as though I need to find a machine to divide me and my nearest and dearest by 148, jump into the grossly over-priced Hornby liddle End tardis I bought the other day and zoom away to a better time and place.

 

Apologies if any offence here, but really, I'm speachless.

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I don't suppose you have offended anyone here, afterall, the notion that Labour has some god-given right to rule Britian is immature in a democracy.

 

David Johnson (Labour) said it all this morning...."We have left the country in a better state than it was when we took office in 1997".

Oh really?

 

Tell that to the voters who heard Blair say in 1997 that he would not be touching the economy for the first two years of his regime, in other words, there was now't wrong with the economy. Tell that to those denied a NHS dental service. Tell that to people who have witnessed record levels of immigration into their towns and cities when the people already settled there have not been able to find employment (two and a half million people unemployed now).

 

Labour has simply done what it did in 1951, 1970 and 1979...... It is leaving workers, not benefit claimants, to pay for their irresponsible ideology.

 

This is simply a response from someone at the opposite end of the bar and who has also been roped into repay the national debt.

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It is perhaps worth pointing out that these days the Government at Westminster does not run Scotland. Thanks to devolution , Scotland, by and large is run by Alec Salmond and his mates. And this arrangement was put in place by a party dominated by people from Scotland , essentially without any input , consultation, or consent from the English people, precisely to ensure that a future Tory Government at Westminster would be powerless to do anything meaningful in Scotland

 

At the same time that party seemed to intend to rule England using Scottish and Welsh MPs votes at Westminster ad infinitum . Hence no form of "English votes for English laws"

 

It has been rather striking in the last few days how many of those appearing in front of the cameras expressing their views on what should be the Government , essentially, of England have been Scots (John Reid, Tom Harris , David Steel , Alex Salmond, Gordon Brown, etc etc),- not to mention the un-elected players (Lords Mandelson & Adonis and Alaister Campbell) Sometimes elected English voices seemed far and few

 

The old cry of "no mandate to govern in Scotland" cuts both ways. Given the overwhelming rejection of the previous Government in England , the agonising over whether the Scots would tolerate the English replacing the Government they had rejected with something else looks a bit odd to English eyes. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

 

Again - very simply , Scotland is largely autonomous these days and a situation where people are agonising over whether a given Government would be acceptable to people whom (by and large) it doesn't govern , when its evidently acceptable to those it does, looks mighty odd. Can you really have laws for England only being voted through with the votes of MPs from half a dozen parties which did not even stand in England, let alone attract a single vote there?

 

Take out the party names and policies , and in the abstract it would still have been a very curious and problematic situation

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