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B Set bodging


Kris

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So your passengers have become a little hacked off from travelling in a DMU one to many times, moaning about the whining of the engine and the uncomfortable seats. What do you do? Ignore them, they are only plastic after all!, or panda to their whims???

 

Now lets leave my little fantasy land for reality (it's not as nice here). At the 2mm expo I tried a quick and dirty conversion on a pair of Dapol "B Set" coaches replacing the wheel sets to increase the stock that I had to use. On the whole this was not very successful. The wheel sets that I really needed to do the job don't exist, so I bodged using some wagon wheels. This allowed for some running but overall was not a satisfactory solution. Realising this at the time I picked up a pair of plate bogie etches. The first pair of these flew together today and is now attached to one of the coaches.

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I choose to use 9ft wheel base etches, mainly as these were available to purchase. The difference that these make to the model is reasonable (having the correct sized wheels in also helps laugh.gif ).

 

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Left hand - new bogies Right hand - Existing bogies

Now I have sorted the bogies on the first coach I now need to get round to doing the second one. Once these are done then I might think about filling in the window that should not be there and changing the outer buffers to longer ones.

 

Changing the bogies also means that I need to consider the coupling mechanism. Now the real things used screwlink couplings. Could I make these work in 2mm? With their Hymek, Dapol supply various pipes and couplings including a pair of dummy screwlinks. I have been playing about with these and a CCT amazingly they work, when being hauled. When being pushed though the coupling slips off. There appears to be some potential here I feel. A small tiny bit of sprung wire over the top of the hook might solver this issue. If this is the case then this may well provide a suitable method of coupling especially if I go down the 3 link route for freight.

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Kris - that bogie looks an improvement - probably runs rather sweet too.

 

I am also considering 3 links for freight...although I have less patience than Rich to be able to use a mini hook! My initial trials with the hood (using a small chain from a model boat shop) seem to be ok with hauling/pushing but I guess it relies on the buffers - did the buffers exist between the B sets that you can use as back-up? Pete

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There certainly are buffers Pete, the problem that screw links have is they don't dip as a chain coupling does so in model form (without compressing buffers) you end up pushing on the screwlink. If you have the coupling close enough to allow for pushing on the buffers there is not enough slack to go round corners.

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Understood Kris - thanks for the clarification - how's that extension coming on to Avonwick...Farmer Giles must be happy to have acquired some new land...or he is unhappy that the land that he had is now having a new railway line cut through it :P

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I've given some (not a lot) of thought to this and come to the initial conclusion that a solution with sprung buffers is the way forward. When the association buffer castings finally appear (I live in hope/belief) then this may well be quite easy...

 

Prototypically I'm pretty sure you should have gone for 7' bogies though. Sorry.

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Prototypically I'm pretty sure you should have gone for 7' bogies though. Sorry.

 

The E140's all ran with 7' bogies I agree but there was a later batch produced E145's these were essentially E140's but with 9' bogies.

 

Pete - The extension has stalled whilst I have been waiting for a few extra bits to show up, however Farmer Giles was pleased to find a nice little package on the door step when he returned from a few days away at the beach this afternoon.

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Good timing on the coaches- I am looking at my b set now! Whilst not having to re-wheel them I was looking at the couplings too. I understand that B sets were usually left close coupled in the middle as a pair when in opperation. If this is your plan, why not simply use some model chain for the middle coupling and whatever type you like on the ends where your loco will go? This is cheap and easy and means you can just leave them together in a cassette when not in use.

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Good timing on the coaches- I am looking at my b set now! Whilst not having to re-wheel them I was looking at the couplings too. I understand that B sets were usually left close coupled in the middle as a pair when in opperation. If this is your plan, why not simply use some model chain for the middle coupling and whatever type you like on the ends where your loco will go? This is cheap and easy and means you can just leave them together in a cassette when not in use.

 

Coaches were never* coupled with chain, it was not considered safe enough, and using chain means the coaches would consistently crashing into each other, much like loose couples wagons did / do. Most freight does not complain about this sort of ride, but passengers do. To get over this GWR coaching stock used screw link couplings. These allowed the coaches to be coupled at a fixed distance, so removing the shocks and jolts. Screw links have since been replaced with buckeyes and other similar couplings.

 

Whatever I end up using will be a fixed unit, I just haven't decided how I'm going to be doing it. In the mean time I have been creating some legs and doing a little track laying. More of this to follow tomorrow.

 

*well maybe on the earliest railways biggrin.gif

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I stand corrected. Maybe my tendency to scrounge everything is getting a bit out of control! PM me when you want to make a start on fencing.

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