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Hornby Tornado VS Bachmann Tornado!


S.A.C Martin

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In my previous review of the Hornby Railroad Tornado, I was impressed with the overall quality of the mechanism, and the accuracy of the model. I made a mistake in my review, where I incorrectly stated that there was no detail pack included in the box. It was in fact, stuck into a recess on the back of the polysterene packing.

 

The Special Edition model of Tornado has now been released, and with it comes the opportunity to compare it with the Bachmann model of Tornado. The Hornby model is an entirely new tooling which is based on the design of the new build A1, and the Bachmann model is a repaint with some slight modifications of its tooling, intended originally to portray the non-roller bearing locomotives of the Peppercorn A1 class.

 

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The outer sleeve for the Hornby box is supremely attractive, with side and top down illustrations of the Tornado model, and “special edition†branding, with the instantly recognisable RAF blue nameplates. On the back, there is a short description of Tornado and her building, along with a photograph of Tornado in her first year of operation (note the position of the chime whistle on the deflector).

 

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Removing the sleeve reveals the standard Railroad box, identical in all respects, bar the model inside, to the previous Railroad Tornado model. This is disappointing in some respects given the “special edition†status of the model.

 

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In stark contrast, Bachmann's Tornado has the now familiar, standard Bachmann packaging, which incorporates its own blue/red outer sleeve, but unlike the Hornby box, includes a clear plastic panel for viewing the model. Of the two, the Bachmann model is better packaged, with a well designed plastic insert, into a cardboard tray protecting the model better than the polysterene tray of the Hornby model.

 

The first thing which strikes me when viewing the models together is their paint colour. The shade of green on the models is very different from each other, Bachmann's being too olive green in shade, and Hornby's too dark.

 

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Looking at my own footage of Tornado, where the shade changes dependent on light source in any event, it's up to the individual to feel if either model gets the shade of green spot on. My personal preference would be for the Hornby shade.

 

In contrast, the red lining along the frames and running plate of engine and tender are similar shades, but differently applied. The Hornby model has much thinner lining, which makes the shade of red seem duller. The Bachmann model has this elaborate lining applied slightly wider, and the result is that the red appears much brighter. A quick glance at a photograph of the real thing, and it seems as if Hornby has the edge here with its much finer lining.

 

The white/black/white lining out on the locomotives and their tenders follows a similar pattern. Bachmann's lining out is marginally wider than that on the Hornby model, and the white of the lining out appears brighter as a result.

 

This is particularly noticeable on the cab and tender sides of the Bachmann model.

 

The nameplates and commemorative plaques on the smoke deflectors and frames are neatly applied on both, but the darker shade of the “brass†colour used for the nameplates is better on the Hornby model, making the nameplate more legible as a result.

 

Neither of the two models appear to have the correct shade of cream for the British Railways lettering or cabside numerals, and the size of the lettering and numbers on the Bachmann model appears overscale, the Hornby model being better for size and proportion, but being strangely more yellowish in its overall shade.

 

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The worksplates and RA9 numerals on both are well applied and legible, although it is something of a surprise that the plug on the lower part of the cab on the Hornby model is printed as opposed to moulded, as on the Bachmann model.

 

On the tenders, the builders plaque and dials on the cabinets are excellently reproduced on both models, but Hornby's tender includes the extra warning flashes on the rear of the tender, which as far as I can see from my own prototype photographs, the real 60163 Tornado does not have.

 

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The smokebox door of both models are very convincing; the shade of silver for the smokebox door straps, handrail and door dart are in both cases, crisply applied. The upper lamp bracket is moulded on the Hornby model, and a separately fitted item on the Bachmann model.

 

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The Bachmann model has the upper hand with regards the distinctive chime whistle, which is a separate item, and painted in a gold shade: the Hornby Tornado's whistle is moulded into the deflector, and remains unpainted.

 

In addition, only the top electric light on the Hornby model is painted, the rest (which are not factory fitted as the Bachmann model's are, and are in a detailing pack) are left as unpainted black plastic.

 

The shape and size of the front bufferbeams are very different, the Hornby Tornado's bufferbeam being deeper than the Bachmann model. There's no doubt in my mind that the Bachmann Tornado falls down in this area, Hornby nailing the diagonals at the edge of the beams, and having its footsteps moulded neatly into them, avoiding the self-fitting nature of the Bachmann Tornado's steps.

 

However, the Hornby model is let down by having plastic moulded buffers, instead of sprung metal ones, as on the Bachmann Tornado. This was the first modification I made to my Railroad Tornado model, as seen here in its new guise as 60163 when first completed at Darlington works. The model as delivered had damage to its right hand buffer, indicative of the extremely thin plastic heads that have been utilized by Hornby for this model.

 

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The piping around the smokebox area – which is different on Tornado to the original Peppercorn A1s – is correctly represented on the Hornby model, on both sides, Bachmann's portraying the original arrangement, and therefore is inaccurate in this respect to the real Tornado.

 

The valve gear is finer on the Bachmann model although the connecting rods and coupling rods are chunkier. This overall is the better of the two representations of Tornado's motion, Hornby's setup using much thinner metals overall, and looking decidedly flimsy.

 

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This in stark contrast to the cylinders, where Bachmann's are better moulded, and slightly shorter in length to the Hornby cylinders, which appear rather larger overall. However, the positioning and incline of the cylinders is better on the Hornby Tornado than the Bachmann Tornado.

 

However, curiously there are two holes for attaching, presumbly, the cylinder drain cocks underneath the Hornby Tornado's cylinders – but no cylinder drain cocks are provided in the detailing pack.

 

The deflectors are, curiously, different lengths and heights from each other. The Bachmann Tornado has separately fitted handrails, whilst the Hornby Tornado has moulded plastic handrails. The Hornby deflectors are bigger overall. From delving into my photographs of the prototype, it seems the Hornby deflectors are a better match overall, whilst having a lower level of detail.

 

It's a similar story with the cabs – the Bachmann model has more separately fitted detail, including glazing on the cab spectacles and side windows, and separately fitted handrails, but the cab roof (as to be expected) is a representation of the original Peppercorn A1s, and not reflective of Tornado's different roof profile.

 

The roof profile of the Hornby Tornado – as stated in the Railroad Tornado review – captures the profile of the real locomotive's roof perfectly. Neither of the two models has opening roof vents or similar details compared to other Pacific models on the market (notably, the Hornby A4 and A3 Pacifics).

 

The whistle on the Bachmann A1 is on the correct side of the cab (leaving a hole for placement of a whistle in the original design specification), but is mounted too high, and too close to the safety valves. The Hornby Tornado's whistle is not only better shaped, but it is in the correct place.

 

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Inside the cab, the Bachmann Tornado's boiler fittings are well painted, and stand out with a few separately fitted details such as the pull out regulator handle. The Hornby model is a one piece moulding which captures the overall look, but seems plainer in unpainted black plastic. Both models feature the cabinets under the bucket seats in the cab, as on the real Tornado.

 

Bachmann's Tornado features a lovely etched metal fallplate, which is not modelled on the Hornby Tornado, and cab doors too, as part of its detailing pack.

 

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The stovepipe chimney on the Hornby model is crisply moulded, and is a separate plug in attachment, allowing for different variants. The Bachmann Tornado's chimney is in two parts, with the top half allowing a switch between stovepipe and rimmed chimneys, and to be frank, this arrangement doesn't look particularly convincing for either Tornado or the original locomotives this tooling has portrayed. The Hornby chimney is marginally shorter, reflecting the shorter stature of the real Tornado to its predecessors.

 

On the boiler, the Bachmann Tornado's washout plugs are not particularly well moulded, although the overall quality of the moulding and its paint finish is excellent. The Hornby Tornado's boiler, including its washout plugs, seems much more convincing in over shape and detail, but the lower handrail is moulded on, as opposed to being separately fitted.

 

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The tender bodies are both well moulded, but the Bachmann model edges out the Hornby model with its separately fitted details on the tender footplate, and with its standard fitted handrails. The printing of the dials and other painted detail is superior on the Hornby tender as a whole, although the added overhead warning stickers is something of a puzzle. It is a shame that, like on the front bufferbeam, the tender buffers are moulded in plastic as part of the frames.

 

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The Hornby tender is a better representation of the real thing, incorporating some excellently moulded roller bearing axleboxes throughout, and there is a significant difference in “look†when the two tenders are stood side by side.

 

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Finally, both models are equipped with NEM pockets, allowing for changeover of couplings from tension lock to kadees if required (as demonstrated on the tenders).

 

Overall, the two models are impressive in their own rights, for different reasons. The attention to detail of the Hornby Tornado by far outstrips the minor modifications Bachmann made to their tender bodyshell; in contrast, the separately fitted detail of the Bachmann model is vast.

 

The decision to buy one over the other will come down to, I think, price - the recommended retail price for the Hornby Special Edition Tornado model is is £92.99, whereas Bachmann Tornado's recommended retail price is £141.95, with another batch of these models expected later in the year.

 

If you want a model OF Tornado, buy the Hornby model. If you want the best "representation" of Tornado, then buy Bachmann's model with all the separately fitted detail that comes with it.

 

Source: 'Railroad' Tornado

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Prefer the Hornby version BUT why on earth have they used moulded handrails totally naff . Virtually impossible to change to seperate items without a repaint <_<

 

Good review well done

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Another excellent review. I agree with the comment above, having gone to the lengths they have.. it seems a shame that the model doesn't come with the same level of detail found on other Hornby "Super detail" products today. It sounds as if we're left with a compromise... cost or quality; but then accuracy or precision? Perhaps there will be a super detailed Hornby version when the moulded details are dispensed with and a true accurate and precise model of Tornado is produced; yes, we could expect a higher cost... but hopefully it'd be worth it.

Thanks for taking the time to post this review. Well worth the read.

Jon

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Am i right in thinking then that the Special Edition is basically a Hornby railroad Tornado with a couple of extras added.

 

Better than the railroad version but no where near up to the standards of other Hornby loco's?

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A very good review, this is going to sound so pathetic, but I really like the expensive Hornby box! The Bachmann one isn't quite so posh, but I wonder which box is more environmentally friendly!?

 

Regards,

 

Nick

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