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Skinningrove Steelworks Wagons - part 1.


halfwit

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I've started building some RT Models Skinningrove steelworks wagons.

The kits are based on open hearth furnace scrap pan cars, used to transport boxes of scrap to the furnaces where the boxes will be mechanically emptied into the furnace. Arthur's excellent Steel Industry Images gallery explains the process better, and also has a photo of a similar wagon. (Thanks Arthur!).

 

Photos of Skinningrove wagons are seemingly rare. There is an image of half a wagon in Bylines vol. 16 issue 8 and a brief glimpse in vol 12 issue 11. A Skinningrove wagon of a different design at the start of this thread.

 

The kit is whitemetal and was originally part of the Clarke Kits range. Wheels are 9mm Romford/Jackson or Markits (they're all the same), regauged to EM. Not included with the kits are the loads, these can be bought seperately and can be either scrap pans or mill rolls (rollers for the rolling mills, these were transported on wagons from the rolling mill to the turning/grinding shop for reconditioning).

 

I used 5 minute Araldite for assembly, which was pretty straightforward. Some pics;

 

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With loads;

 

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A better shot of the rolls (note that these are a mix of whitemetal and resin);

 

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And the loads on their own, scrap pans in the foreground (apologies for the picture quality);

 

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In primer;

 

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Which brings me onto painting - the instructions state that the wagons would be bare metal and rusty. But what about the scrap pans? And the rolls? And would the roller stands be wooden?

 

Paul.

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I had to do some research myself for someone and looking at photos, the rolls "which i just googled these" would be plain steel from all the ones i've been looking at, as to the chocks they rest on i'm not sure.

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Robert, I'm thinking of painting the rolls as if they've been heavily used and are on the way to be reconditioned, so probably a dark rust colour?

Otherwise I reckon that a smooth coat of silver/steel and a light mist of rust would work for newly turned rolls.

 

Paul.

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I don't think the rolls would get very rusty, as they would have been used in a hot, dry, envirionment- there might be superficial rust if they were stored outside prior to re-turning. The colour would be more akin to a dark steel colour. The rolls were cast steel, with different shapes depending on what sort of section they were being used to roll. Chocks would have been hefty chunks of wood, to avoid damaging the surface of the roll.

My father served his time as a roll-turner at RT&B's Machynys Foundry in Llanelli (or Llanelly, as it was when he started)- he used to say that the rolls were very precisely machined, especially as the ones he worked on would be used to make thin plate for tinplating.

Brian

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If you go to my post on Sinningrove I have put photos of rolls on there, I hope its helps.

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Thanks guys.

 

That's given me a good starting point on painting. I had a feeling that the chocks would be wooden, when I worked as a turner I had various wooden blocks next to my lathe to stand jobs on.

I'm a bit wary of painting the rolls in 'new' condition as the paintwork and finish would need to be extremely smooth to look even close to a freshly turned or ground roll. And I reckon getting the colour close to freshly turned steel would be rather difficult.

 

12CSVT, the photos in your thread are certainly very usefull, thanks for posting them.

 

Paul.

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