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Upton Dene - the layout construction blog


scanman

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This should be subtitled ' Reality Strikes'!

 

Those following this blog (and the entry in the 'layouts' forum) will remember the initial concept was for a series of dioramas depicting a Great Western secondary main line and an associated branch - the branch would leave the main and gain hieght (effectively on a helix) - mostly unscenicked - reaching the terminus at Ambridge via an intermediate station & various lineside industries. The concept was designed round the layouts original home in a large garden shed with a layout area of 10' x 7' 6". The hope was that, at some distant future, the layout would move to larger premises and become more 'lifelike'. However, you will appreciate that there have been fairly drastic events in the last year - and the layout is now going to be constructed in a space of 12' x 6' 6".

 

From the outset I felt it would be difficult to create what I wanted in a layout with about three interconnected levels and some hard thinking (aided by a calculator) showed that really the concept was impractical given the requirement for baseboard clearances, working gradients etc. Something would have to go - either the 'main line' (a 'roundy-roundy' or the branch & it's terminus. Neither option really appealed - I wanted the ability to 'watch the trains go by', and shunt the terminus with associated industries such as the dairy, a brewery, a gasworks etc (greedy, aren't I!)..

 

At last the light dawned. I could get about 80% of what I wanted by bulding TWO layouts, one above the other..

 

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Ambridge & its environs will sit above 'Upton Dene' with a decent heiinterspace of 450mm (about 18"). Whilst there is no direct linkage, by using a 'cassette-type' fiddleyard on both layouts, the 'branch' trains can leave Upton Dene, arrive on a cassette on the lower level & be hand-transported to the upper level to complete the journey. I'm pretty certain this is not an idea unique to me - in fact IIRC Peter denny used the same sytem on 'Buckingham' - and even automated it!

 

I hope the above diagram makes everything clear, including access to the operating well. The lower f/y will be mounred on wheels, somewhat like a tea-trolley & be capable of removal into the operating well or aisle (it backs onto the workbench area). Operators will then 'duck under' the upper layout whilst passing through the gap.

 

Desgin parameters:-

 

These have not changed really. Set in GWR territory (Cotswolds area) with a time span of 1920-1934 and modelled in 'EM'. Track construction will be the 'EMGS' 'rivet & ply' method using 2mm headed rivets. Cosmetic chairs will be added to scenic areas. Minimum radius (unfortunately) will be 36" ( set by the 6' 6" operating area). Baseboards will be 9mm ply for sides & trackbed with high-density urethane foam for ground-work - see the 'Dairy for Ambridge' entry in the 2010 comp. Operation will be via DCC - and yes, I'm aware it is not as easy as 'two wires does it al'!

 

One regret is that the dairy/viaduct scene will have to be re-built as this originally spanned 7' 6", but hopefully the modelling will improve anyway! I will also take the opportunity to add another lineside industry (to mask the f/y) - probably a railhead for a cotswold stone mason ( a little like the one at Box).

 

A major consideration is the minimum radius that all stock will have to negotiate. Whilst I do not imagine a 'King' & 14 thundering by on the main (the fiddleyard will only be about 5' long!) I do have a 'Hall' in the 'wundy box' andthe 'Bulldog' under construction may need 'adjusting' too. To that end, modelling has already commenced with a 'test track' - a B6 LH curved point, 9' 00:straight-switch (GWR Practice before 1925) with sufficient leads on main and branch to take a 4-6-0 tender loco or a 70' toplight coach. It will also allow me the opportunity to evaluate 'Dingham' & Sprat & Winkle' couplings etc. as it will have to be a 'mini-baseboard' to accomodate the 'Tortoise' PM &electrics!

 

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Of course, I've still got the old workshop to absorb into the new room, and decorative work to do on the new house. And of course - sell the old one. Anyone want a nice 3-bed semi with workshop, garage & chalet shed???

 

Regs

 

Ian

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  • RMweb Gold

The best example of a british two level layout is Jas Milham's S scale Yaxbury which has featured extensively in MRJ and also Model Rail. He has a mainline junction with the mainline off stage just the branch platform and sorting sidings available plus cassetes to store trains going onto the main line. The line then loops round the loft through a station before running onto a hoist to take it to the next level where it loops round to the terminus. There are two through stations one on each level. Well worth a look. There is a track plan and some photos on the S scale site but these do not show the two levels which are show in the magazine articles.

Don

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That's a very interesting solution, Ian. I like the idea that the train leaves on one level and arrives on another, even if a bit of help is required.

 

Not sure I understand how you will access the operating well. Is Upton Dene the level that you duck-under? If so, would it not be easier to have that level open on one side, and the upper level closed? Probably just me not getting the point!

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Yes, I'm a little confused too! Particularly by the words "450mm min duck under". Now, from your avatar, you're not a small chap so I'm wondering how you intend getting under something 450mm off the ground. I know I couldn't do it ;-)

 

Nick

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Unfortunately the text labelling one of the diagrams seems to be chopped off, but I interpret it as "Lower edge of baseboard at 1.0m agl". I assume this means the circular(-ish) layout of Upton Dene is 1 metre above the ground, and operator therefore has to duck below 1 metre (which sounds feasible). The U-shaped layout of Ambridge is a further 450 mm higher - which sounds a bit high to me, but not excessive.

 

The "450 mm duckunder" between the two layers in the diagrams probably should be reworded to something like "450 mm clearance between levels" - if I understand the concept correctly.

 

David

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Hi folks -

 

Confusion reigns (du e to me) but Gingerbread gets closest! (almost said 'takes the biscuit'....)

 

The baseboards holding 'Upton Dene' will be 1 metre above the floor. The cassettte fiddleyarde will be on rollers for access to the operating well. The bottom of 'Ambridge's boards will be 450mm above 'Upton Dene' (so approximately 1.45 m (4' 6") above the floor. Therefor operators will walk through Upton Dene whilst 'Ducking under' Ambridge...

 

I'd have liked the 'Ambridge' Bboard to have a removable section too - but linking it to a rolling section below might make the unit unstable/top-heavy and in any case would be a nightmare to align! The option would be to make that section of Ambridge's boards competely removable - I might consider that if my back gives out!

 

Don - Yep, I'd forgotten about Yaxley - must re-read the articles in 'MRJ'...

 

 

BTW - has anyone else come across 'non-conductive, aluminium angle? I bought some to trial a cassette and current won't pass throug it!

 

Regs

 

Ian

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BTW - has anyone else come across 'non-conductive, aluminium angle? I bought some to trial a cassette and current won't pass throug it! Regs Ian

Haven't got that far myself (yet), but I believe there are two types - you want "raw" which conducts electricity - the other type (I think it is "anodised") doesn't...

David

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Yes, it's almost certainly anodised, though it is only a surface treatment. Attack it with a file or other abrasive and you'll find conductive aluminium underneath.

 

Nick

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