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Magnetic Couplings


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After searching for a coupling which was reliable, unobtrusive and still allowed for easy shunting with a shunters pole I was at a bit of a loss. The rapido is plain ugly and poor for shunting, the DG I found fiddley to assemble and tricky getting them to couple and uncouple if not perfectly assembled and mounted. The Micro Trains couplings are ok, but expensive and still fairly unreliable if not quite lined up right.

 

So, I had a bit of a brainwave, a year or so ago I read an article by Jim Smith-Wright and he had used magnets and elastic to create connecting brake pipes. I thought perhaps I could mount something similar in a central position and use it as a coupling; N Scale being smaller, the stress on the coupling being less.

 

I did a few experiments and I have devised a visually unobtrusive, easy to shunt and cheap method of coupling.

 

It's fairly simple;

 

I purchased the magnets from here. I then drilled a 1mm hole centrally in the buffer beam either end. One end I used some superglue and just pushed the magnet strait in the hole.

 

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The other end I glued in a short length (length depends on wheelbase and minimum radius curve the model must negotiate) of elastic; To the end of this I glued another magnet.

 

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Now I have couplings which are much smaller and more covert than Rapidos, couple regardless of height and are cheap to make.

 

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Things to watch: Make sure the polarity of the magnets is correct, or else they will repel each other!

 

Hope this is of use to someone!

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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  • RMweb Gold

Interesting idea. Presumably you still need some sort of "device" to guide the magnets together if they're not completely aligned. How does the uncoupling work - does the "device" come into play again, or is it a matter of holding one item & pulling the other away?

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Coupling is easy, just lift the magnet with a hook and it'll locate itself, to uncouple just use the bottom of the hook and push the magnet down and it'll slide down and off.

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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Very neat. You might be able to avoid the polarity issue by gluing the magnets sideways to the end of the elastic, with half the length of elastic at each end of the vehicle. Then when they get close enough together (I assume they're Neodymium?) they'll sort out the polarity themselves. The Lego magnetic couplings also do something interesting, where the magnets are mounted in swivelling frames so they can turn themselves around to present the right polarity, but that might be overkill (and difficult to do in such a small scale).

 

Do you have any problems with the vehicles lifting off the track when uncoupling, or is their weight enough to keep them in place?

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Im curious as to what the maximum length train is that this method can employ. Well done however on a very clever alternative method :D.

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Will, I think having the magnets side on would mean they are more likely to slide apart, there is little friction to be overcome when sliding the magnets over each other, which is good for uncoupling when mounted end on, but would reduce the "draw bar" strength and make uncoupling more difficult if mounted side on. The weight of the vehicles is enough to keep them in place, because you're using the nearest axle as the pivot point when pushing down the weight of the wagon has the mechanical advantage over you and because metal on metal presents little friction the magnets slide down and out of each other's fields easily.

 

rcmacchipilot, the length possible will depend on several factors; The length/weight of the train, the ammount of fiction in the wheelsets and the tightness of the curves. I reckon 30 wagons if the curves are not too tight and the wheel sets are fairly free rolling, interestingly when you start a train you have to do it like it would be done in the real world, you have to take the slack out of the couplings before you put the real power down, otherwise you risk the front magnet disconnecting! If you want to run longer trains you can just add more magnets, have two, or even three end on in each buffer beam and you'll increase the coupling strength.

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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  • RMweb Gold

That's very neat and clever Jack.

 

You forgot the obligatory 50p in the picture to demonstrate how small it all is...I never realised magnets that tiny were available.

 

How do you deal with the front of the loco...does it have one of the front end pipes off the end detailing or do you just rely on the wagon locking on to the magnet? If the latter, that's probably the neatest way to detail both ends of a loco without any visible couplings...

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  • RMweb Gold

Great idea Jack - I am going to have give that a try.

 

I wonder if dummy couplings with magnets + elastic for the air pipes would work.

 

Cheers, Mike

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I thought that Jim's idea coupling the brake hoses was good... but this just adds practicality to what was previously a finescale suggestion... possibly not fine enough for 2mm.... but seems to work superbly for this! If you displaced them from centre, I presume they'd be too big to pretent to be brake pipes ?

Jon

P.S. ... just bought some! Thanks for the link. Brake pipes ahoy! I'm working in 4mm... so it should work (hopefully)

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Hi guys, thanks for the positive comments.

 

Pete, on the locos I have the same configuration as the wagons, buffer beam magnet one end, elastic and magnet t'other, but I have a piece of steel wire vertically down from the buffer beam for the magnet to stick to, this keeps it bent round when not in use and looking like a brake pipe so it doesn't stick out like a sore rapido!

 

Jon and Mike, the elastic is a little chunky for a scale brakepipe, but I think you can get smaller magnets though they cost more and I haven't found a seller on eBay. Certainly worth experimenting with, I'd be well impressed at seeing working brake and vac pipes in N that's for sure!

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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Here we go, a video showing the uncoupling/coupling operation. Apologies for the quailty, I had to compress the video to make it small enough to upload.

 

 

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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  • RMweb Gold

Here we go, a video showing the uncoupling/coupling operation. Apologies for the quailty, I had to compress the video to make it small enough to upload.Kindest Regards,Jack

 

Jack - Its telling me I don't have permissions to view it?...

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  • RMweb Gold

That's better...was available to see it now.

 

It does what it says on the tin..and I rather liked the cameo of the glove...

 

Excellent work Jack...and I forgot to say, that Tiger is looking rather tasty too... :yes:

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