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Ropley - Non-Rolling Rolling Stock

TomE

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Work has started on the main yard area, with the first DAS applied.

Hi All.

 

A rather random entry this time, with a few different areas of the layout seeing work or planning. Firstly, the first DAS has been applied to the main yard section in the area immediately in front of the coal staithe. I plan to do small areas at a time to make sure I can manage the removal of the DAS from around points and the insides of the running lines. The method is largely the same as that described here, but with the addition of a layer of PVA applied first to try and ensure that the clay doesn’t come away whilst the layout is moved around. So far, no cracks!

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Here you can see the transition from the newer ballast infil infront of the Carriage Shed, and the older material represented by DAS clay.

 

Also added are the wooden planks covering the point mechanism, produced from a piece of plastic cut to shape before being scribed and then painted. At the real location this marks the change from the newer ballast infill used when the Carriage & Boiler shed was rebuilt, and the older, more compacted material found in the rest of the yard which the DAS is intended to represent. The gap in the ballast where the tiebar for the Barry Slip is visible is also temporary and will be in filled once a cover piece has been installed to stop the mechanism getting clogged with Kleer and ballast.

 

I have also begun thinking about the yard clutter at the southern edge, or at what will be the front of the layout. Working East from the Coal staithes the first few items are a couple of containers and 2 oil tankers.

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Yard clutter which will all need to be represented on the layout. Some from readily available sources, other items will need to be scratch built.

 

The 2 containers are easily tackled, using the Graham Farish 20ft versions. A repaint will be the only task required here, although there is an interesting pattern on the one closest to the camera in the photo above!

 

The TTA tank which runs parallel to the yard was also sourced from Farish, their recently released RTR version being ideal and again only needing a repaint, the loss of it's buffers and the addition of the weathered graffiti on the lower side. The Tank between the two containers did however cause me some head scratching. Eventually I discovered it was a 14 Ton National Benzole Tank, but typically not the version produced by Farish which appears to be much earlier in design.

 

 

A Google around has not revealed a kit available of this type either, so I think this will have to be a scratch build effort. If anyone has data such as length & diameter of the tank, it would be most gratefully received!

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3 of the four elements making up the first area of yard clutter.

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And the prototype for reference!

 

The area beyond the TTA tank is somewhat of a mystery at the moment as this is not usually accessible. There are currently two S15's in various states of restoration as well as a few other buildings which look like they may be the bodies of grounded vans with new roofs but without getting in and around the area it is difficult to tell. Hopefully once the path on top of the small embankment which leads to the new footbridge is open, I'll be able to better ascertain what this area looks like!

 

Cheers all,

 

Tom.

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2mm Andy

Tom,

 

The earlier tank wagon is an 'anchor mount' type. I have a drawing somewhere for a 20t wagon, but not the 14t version, which seems to be shorter. 'Missy' Julia was considering producing some for 'Highclere', but I don't know if she's got very far with them.

 

Nice work on the layout btw!

 

Andy

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Evening Tom,

Another inspirational entry, I'm learning all sorts of useful wrinkles from this thread. I hope this is designed to be capable of going to shows. Models of a preserved line are normaly just a freelance excuse to run anything and are rarely convincing. This is a very different animal, an accurate portrayal of a preserved prototype done to the highest standards. I look forward to seeing this in the flesh sometime. Keep the posts coming.

 

Jerry

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By the way... I think this is your wagon before it was made over...

http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=2967

No mention of dimensions. Sorry.

 

Thanks Jan, thats one photoi didn't come across whilst searching.

 

Nice work Tom.

The proper way to do inset track... ;)

 

Thanks Pete! I guess it's a bit late to ship some DAS to BCN!

 

Tom,

 

The earlier tank wagon is an 'anchor mount' type. I have a drawing somewhere for a 20t wagon, but not the 14t version, which seems to be shorter. 'Missy' Julia was considering producing some for 'Highclere', but I don't know if she's got very far with them.

 

Nice work on the layout btw!

 

Andy

 

Thanks Andy, will have to speak to Julia at Stafford!

 

Evening Tom,

Another inspirational entry, I'm learning all sorts of useful wrinkles from this thread. I hope this is designed to be capable of going to shows. Models of a preserved line are normaly just a freelance excuse to run anything and are rarely convincing. This is a very different animal, an accurate portrayal of a preserved prototype done to the highest standards. I look forward to seeing this in the flesh sometime. Keep the posts coming.

 

Jerry

 

Thanks Jerry! The intention is that the layout will be exhibitable and will eventually expand to include the station, but that's a looooong way off!

 

I have to be honest and say that when I was thinking about doing a preserved line, the ability to run stock that would not otherwise be seen together was quite a large factor, but I will limit myself to things which have actually run on the line, so you won't be seeing any too outlandish!

 

Cheers all!

 

Tom.

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The DAS infill looks great, just a couple of questions if I may.

 

How did you form the flange ways? by hand or by pushing some old stock though?

 

What sort of paint is suitable to cover the DAS? Enamel? Acrylic? Emulsion?

 

Thanks for the inspiration

Frank

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Thanks Frank!

 

I used a spare BR1 bogie pushed along the line after the DAS had been allowed to dry for a little while. The whole lot will be sanded smooth with wet & dry paper, and the flangeway grove deepend slightly further during this process to try and ensure smooth running. I have seen others use a hacksaw blade run along the edge of the rail as an alternative method.

 

As for painting, DAS will take pretty much any type of paint, but the plan here is to give the whole lot a coat of Halfords grey primer after sanding, and the. Use thinned enamels washed on to try and create the same look as the prototype. On the test plank I used black, but this time I think I,ll make up a dirty brown colour to better match the real location.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom.

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Hi Tom,

 

Your DAS work is incredible. I might use that for the gravel on my platforms. Thanks for the continuing inspiration.

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I can confirm the halfords primer works on DAS, for platform gravel you can also use suede textured paint. Rust oleum make a couple of great gravel shades that are even fine enough for N.

Link here http://www.rustoleumspraypaint.com/product/textured/

Tom, the yard clutter already looks great, the character of the prototype has been rendered with great care and attentional to detail on your model, have enjoyed every post so far!

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Jan

Hi Tom,

 

Tom,

 

The earlier tank wagon is an 'anchor mount' type. I have a drawing somewhere for a 20t wagon, but not the 14t version, which seems to be shorter. 'Missy' Julia was considering producing some for 'Highclere', but I don't know if she's got very far with them.

 

Nice work on the layout btw!

 

Andy

 

Hi Tom,

 

There's a National Benzole 14T tank at the Gwili:

http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=2763

 

I was out there the other day (in the rain) and took some pictures. According to the solebar, the tank sits on a 10ft wheelbase chassis. I managed to get a side-on shot, and I'll upload it when I've worked out how :)

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Many thanks for that Jan! Very useful info, and now I know the chassis details it should be easy enough to work out the rest. If you manage to upload the photo I'd love to see it, anything that helps with the detail!

 

Thanks again,

 

Tom.

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