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Juniper Hill Stock. Stewarts & Lloyds wagons and a visiting Pug

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A good friend of mine in his 70's who worked on the railways told me of a story where a L & Y Pug was brought down from Derby to take a large piece of equipment up one of the ironstone quarry lines around Wellinborough. The rationale being that it's short wheelbase would be suitable for the job and once completed the loco was returned to Derby shed.

 

In homage to this story I've taken a few shots of my Pug which isn't Derby allocated I know.

 

One of the reasons for these photos is to illustrate some of the wagons I have been working on for Juniper Hill. First up is the Bachmann Stewarts & Lloyds 8 plank wagon weathered with Tamiya/Vallejo acrylics to represent an old private owner taken into BR stock with replacement planks etc. I still need to add the numbers etc. This wagon is a complete work of fiction of course and would more than likely just been an internal user wagon in reality.

 

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Secondly, Bachmann have once again come up trumps for modellers of ironstone layouts with their representation of a 1940 Charles Roberts 16T BSCO iron ore tippler wagon. Paul Bartlett's site has few photos of these wagons stating they were later used for coal traffic and I've seen film evidence of this with a 9F hauling a southbound coal train north of Loughborough in the early 60's. They are interesting wagons still running in the 1970's with split spoke wheels as Paul's photos taken at Wellingborough illustrate.

 

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I've four of these wagons. Three are from a Modelzone weathered set which isn't the best weathering I've seen being the usual blast of track colour on the underframe and lower body sides which doesn't look like the weathering on the wagons on Paul Bartlett's site. Some of the wagons look suprisingly clean too in reality. The fourth wagon was an unweathered version.

 

With these I sprayed the inside of the wagon with NATO black followed by Tamiya hull red. The underframes where sprayed with my homebrew underframe dirt mixture then details picked out around the axle boxes and springs.

 

Then the sides of the wagon were dry brushed with some Vallejo colours to represent wear.

 

Finally the Pug is the Hornby offering that has been renumbered, detailed and weathered. Crew from the excellent Monty's range of figures.

 

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Here she is at rest in between jobs. The subsidance in the area is quite bad too!

 

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Cheers,

 

Mark

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lyndonsdad1

I am also in my 70's and can remember an L & Y Pug being used at the Sheepbridge iron ore mines at my old home town of Desborough!

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The Desborough "shunter" was usually LMS Johnson 2F 2999 from Kettering 15B , in BR days it became 58172, happy days!!!!!!!

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The pug was 51235 and was sent to Finedon in 1954 to move a rather large 680 ton Ransomes and Rapier stripping shovel, which had been stripped down into managable parts (the jib itself was 104' long!), to BR's exchange sidings near Wellingborough station. The shovel was destined for Blisworth.

Source - Industrial Railway Record 142.

 

Paul.

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Nice weathering job on the wagons. I'd need to check the IRS record but I'm fairly sure one of the L&Y type pugs was used in the works at Corby.

 

One point is the BSCO wagons were built by Chas Roberts to an order from Stewarts & Lloyds to carry coking coal, not ore. Ironstone is pretty dense and therefore fairly heavy by comparison to coal. With just 16t gross weight, these wagons would have been able to carry very little ore. Ironstone wagons were usually rated at 20t plus for wagons of this size, 27t in the case of the BR std tipplers.

 

They saw service for over forty years, from pre-war to 1980 when Corby finally closed.

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The Desborough "shunter" was usually LMS Johnson 2F 2999 from Kettering 15B , in BR days it became 58172, happy days!!!!!!!

 

Thanks for the comments and the information lyndonsdad1.  I'll bare that in mind. I quite fancy a 2F as Kettering had a few of them.

 

Not sure if you've seen it but there's some lovely shots of Desborough quarry engine shed in Steam Railways in Colour around Northamptonshire by Coleman and Rajczonek (1993). Well worth a look if you haven't seen it.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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The pug was 51235 and was sent to Finedon in 1954 to move a rather large 680 ton Ransomes and Rapier stripping shovel, which had been stripped down into managable parts (the jib itself was 104' long!), to BR's exchange sidings near Wellingborough station. The shovel was destined for Blisworth.

Source - Industrial Railway Record 142.

 

Paul.

 

Paul thanks for the information. I'll let my mate know this information too. He used to be a fireman at Wellingborough shed until it closed and I can remember him telling me this story.

 

I guess this means I should renumber my Pug as well now :D .

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Nice weathering job on the wagons. I'd need to check the IRS record but I'm fairly sure one of the L&Y type pugs was used in the works at Corby.

 

One point is the BSCO wagons were built by Chas Roberts to an order from Stewarts & Lloyds to carry coking coal, not ore. Ironstone is pretty dense and therefore fairly heavy by comparison to coal. With just 16t gross weight, these wagons would have been able to carry very little ore. Ironstone wagons were usually rated at 20t plus for wagons of this size, 27t in the case of the BR std tipplers.

 

They saw service for over forty years, from pre-war to 1980 when Corby finally closed.

 

Thanks Rangers for those kind words re: the weathering.

 

Yes, totally agree with you on the BSCO 16T wagons. Bit of a red herring really until you realise they were for coke traffic. It's hard to believe thet lasted in service for 30-40 years and as I said in the original post Paul's photos show some of them as in good condition even in the mid-70's.

 

Be interesting to know about the Pug if one did work at the steel works.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Nice work Mark,

 

Bit worried about that last pic Mark - the wagon and buffer stops look like they have had too many G+T's :D

 

Just a suggestion but I reckon those pics would look even better if cropped a tad...losing the DALER ROWNEY freebie advertisement (don't tell Pixie ;)) That way I think they will come across even more realistic as it will bring out the scenics as well as your rolling stock.

 

I use iPhoto or Irfanview etc and they both give good results.

 

Just a thought...feel free to ignore...

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Nice work Mark,

 

Bit worried about that last pic Mark - the wagon and buffer stops look like they have had too many G+T's :D

 

Just a suggestion but I reckon those pics would look even better if cropped a tad...losing the DALER ROWNEY freebie advertisement (don't tell Pixie ;)) That way I think they will come across even more realistic as it will bring out the scenics as well as your rolling stock.

 

I use iPhoto or Irfanview etc and they both give good results.

 

Just a thought...feel free to ignore...

 

Evening Pete,

 

This reply is brought to you in association with Daler Rowney :D

 

Point taken ;)

 

Thanks for the comments re: the wagons etc. I do need to sort out my photo backscene but I'm on the case and thee's been some 'hot iron action' and we're not talking melting wheels or ironing my shirts either! :D

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Really nice set-up Mark. Tonnes of atmosphere. I especially like the Stewarts and Lloyds wagon, the replacement planks are very nicely done.

 

If there is any furniture inside the hut you had better tie it down! :-)

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Really nice set-up Mark. Tonnes of atmosphere...

I agree, but wouldn't they have been tons in those days?

 

Nick

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Really nice set-up Mark. Tonnes of atmosphere. I especially like the Stewarts and Lloyds wagon, the replacement planks are very nicely done.

 

If there is any furniture inside the hut you had better tie it down! :-)

 

Thanks Mikkel for the comments. My little photo plank will be replaced soon with a proper well lit Juniper Hill and back scene.

 

Agree about the hut though-might have to hang on and nail things down.

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I agree, but wouldn't they have been tons in those days?

 

Nick

 

 

Thanks Nick-much appreciated.

 

Hopefully Juniper Hill will be able to portray some of this atmosphere in a small space.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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