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Dapol Stanier Coach Detailing-Part 1

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One of those projects I've had sat on the workbench for a while were a couple of those Dapol Stanier coach kits which I wanted to detail. The composite offers the missing link in Hornby's range of Stanier coaches. I'm no expert on LMS coaches but hopefully these modification will bring these 1970's models up to date.

 

I think I'm right in saying that Airfix/Dapol got the battery box on the wrong side of the Brake 3rd so I modified this as per one of Coachman's threads on modifying/using the Dapol kits. On the Composite I replaced the moulding with a Comet white metal casting. Comet also supplied the brake cylinders, dynamos, cross bracing and regulators. Hopefully everything is stuck where it should be? Using these components is a vast improvement and brings the underframe to life. Buffers are also from Comet. The underframes and bogies have been painted using Halfords grey primer and Satin black.

 

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Moving on to the bodyshells I used Valejo biege which believe it or not is an exact match for the Dapol 'Cream' to paint in the window ledges, The printed numbers were removed using a glass fibre pen and I need to gently blow over these areas with some Railmatch Crimson, The sides have received a coat of brush applied Johnsons Klear to add some lustreto the finish.. I've also applied the grey panels on the luggage compartment doors on the brake using Tamiya acrylic paint. Flush windows have been made up for the rear of the brake and I'm replacing the toilet windows too with new ones. I think Airfix/Dapol have got too many frosted windows on the brake.

 

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On the ends of the coaches I've removed the moulded handrails/water fillers and made replacements up with wire and short handrail knobs. These will go on once everything is back together again. I also masked off the ends and gave them a coat of Halfords grey primer and satin black.

 

Roof wise the kits plastic vents were replaced with MJT shell vents and the moulded water filler pipes were cut off the composite, whilst for ease the ones on the brake were left. Following a coat of primer I preshaded the roof with Tamiya Nato black before spraying over a Tamiya medium grey. This has worked well but I need to add further washes/dry brush areas on the roof to add definition.

 

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Thats where we are at present. Once the windows are finished its a case of adding the window bars in the luggage compartment of the brake, adding numbers and weathering them both.

 

Does anyone know of the number series of these coaches? I believe the Brake Third is a D1905 but I'm not sure about the Composite.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Timara

The composites were D1925/1969 (no external difference) and numbered between 3934 and 4329.  There was an extra in the form of 3818, which was a rebuild of a Period II CK after fire damage (in 1937).

 

HTH,

Tim

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Hi Mark,

It's good to see some of your work coming through, you're doing a good job on this one.

I didn't realize how complex a subject coaches could be until I started researching for another project, to me a coach was just a coach.

I don't know if they'll be of help  but I've posted two links below, the southern group one may be the wrong region but it contains some useful history of Mk 1 coaches. Comet models have some useful PDF files on construction methods too.

 

Cheers Rolyl 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_coach_designations

 

http://www.srg.org.uk/Default.htm

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The composites were D1925/1969 (no external difference) and numbered between 3934 and 4329.  There was an extra in the form of 3818, which was a rebuild of a Period II CK after fire damage (in 1937).

 

HTH,

Tim

 

Thanks Tim,

 

That's a great help.  Numbers on and hopefully on the home straight!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Hi Mark,

It's good to see some of your work coming through, you're doing a good job on this one.

I didn't realize how complex a subject coaches could be until I started researching for another project, to me a coach was just a coach.

I don't know if they'll be of help  but I've posted two links below, the southern group one may be the wrong region but it contains some useful history of Mk 1 coaches. Comet models have some useful PDF files on construction methods too.

 

Cheers Rolyl 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_coach_designations

 

http://www.srg.org.uk/Default.htm

 

Thanks as well Roly,

 

Totally agree with you and I'm sure there are things on these models that aren't correct.  Not usually modelling coaches it does become a minefield as you say. I think if I did anymore of these I should invest in a decent LMS Carriage book.

 

Thanks once again for the references too.  I had a look at the Comet site when looking at floor plans for the underframe gear etc.

 

Look forwards to some coaches on your thread too Roly by the sounds of things!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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I do like the way you've painted the roof.Any chance of showing how you did it sometime ?
 
Did these coaches make it up the Teign Valley line then.lol.

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They scrub up well don't they?

Tim beat me to it re the numbering.

Don't know about the Teign Valley Rob, but there's a pic in "Steam in Cornwall of a 57xx hauling a local passenger train of what appears to be LMS period 2 stock at Mithian Halt in 1961.

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I do like the way you've painted the roof.Any chance of showing how you did it sometime ?

 

Did these coaches make it up the Teign Valley line then.lol.

 

Evening Robin,

 

Thanks for the that.  Yes, I'll do a photographic post on pre-shading on a piece of plasticard with some microstrip added for ribbing. Watch this space.

 

As for the appearance of these on the Teign Valley line (TVL) no idea-but I guess they could have done if the sea wall at Dawlish was impassable on an inter-regional train.

 

Fear not however as 9717 is nearing completion and will will have some significance to the TVL.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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They scrub up well don't they?

Tim beat me to it re the numbering.

Don't know about the Teign Valley Rob, but there's a pic in "Steam in Cornwall of a 57xx hauling a local passenger train of what appears to be LMS period 2 stock at Mithian Halt in 1961.

 

Thanks Alex,

 

You don't happen to have the numbers for the brake 3rds to hand do you?

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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