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43xx - Research & Reference Photographs


alanbuttler

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My continuing lack of modelling progress due to working away is counter balanced by it taking me near to shows, preserved lines and museums around the country that I otherwise wouldn't get to. Looking at the last month its been a bit of a whirlwind tour with there seemingly always something within an hour of the office that is worth seeing! The last couple of months I've been lucky enough to get to MOSI, Wakefield for Scaleforum, the NRM, York Show, Llangollen, The W&L, Didcot, The Bluebell and now Swindon and STEAM.

 

As a result I've been lucky to get access to many of the preserved locomotives which feature in Oswestry Works. Although as pointed out preserved locos have had many modifications and enhancements after preservation that would not be present during their first lives, there still is no substitute for spending some time with the real thing. So here is the next instalment of reference photographs, this time its 5322 which I saw looking glorious in BR Black at Didcot last weekend.

 

Firstly a look at the classes activity in the works for the period 1954-1959 (minus 1955!):

 

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6371 and 4377 have both been earmarked for modelling, 6371 being a Machynlleth resident 1954-1960 and 4377 from 1955. This great reference photo of 6371 on Rail Photo Prints has really whet my appetite, though it has highlighted some major variations to 5322, particularly the body work around the reversing lever and the boiler supports.

 

1. 5322 on shed at Didcot

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2. Pony truck and buffer beam

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3. Lamp brackets and footsteps

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4. L/H Cylinder drains

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5. L/H Cylinder

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6. Lamp Irons

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7. L/H Sandbox linkages

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8. R/H Sandbox linkages

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9. R/H Profile

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10. Inside Motion

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11. Cab

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12. Storm Sheet

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Full set here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/cambrian_al/sets/72157644568638885/

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Hi Alan,

 

Those are some lovely shots of the good old 'Donkey' - thanks for sharing them!

 

All the best,

 

Castle

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Brilliant set of photographs. This will be a very useful reference when I build my 43xx.

 

Regards,

 

Nick.

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The Western moguls were (and are) fine locomotives and had a very good reputation when working the Cambrian.  I seem to remember two moguls often double headed the Cambrian Coast Express from Shrewsbury to Dovey Junction.

 

Visits to heritage railways are always interesting but I sometimes think that everything looks a little bit too clean!  In the late 1950s the only clean locomotives you would see were those coming straight out of the Works.  Some sheds did a better job at cleaning, particularly for the crack expresses, but workhorses got very little attention.

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It would be even better if the photographs were of a real locomotive like those from the LMS, only joking these locomotives have always appealed to me

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Brilliant set of photographs. This will be a very useful reference when I build my 43xx..

 

Agreed. Am building 5322 anyway from a Mitchell kit. Doesn't have inside Stephenson's though.

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Hi All,

 

I think that's a sort of compliment from Focal Plane...

 

Just kidding!

 

No. 5322 has been away earning it's keep and as you can see in picture 1, one of the loco gang is slowly working over her to bring her back to immaculate. The look is achieved by a flush off with paraffin on a long handled brush as being ably demonstrated. Then an oil / paraffin mix is used to give a final clean and is buffed up to a shine. It's all done as it was back in the day. So it's look reflects the period results of attentions of a shed with a good cleaning regime. Be careful as No. 5322 has its porthole windows in place as it was restored as closely as practicable to its 1917 condition and the route code / power discs are missing from the BR livery as it was only going to be temporary. Two years later...

 

D'oh!

 

All the best,

 

Castle

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Hi all, I'm glad they are useful to others, but please if you feel I've missed anything let me know!  I seem to always come away with one or two details missed, it seems like so much to take in at the time and have a modellers eye whilst looking at the real thing, thinking what angles or shots would be useful to refer from.  I'm sure I'll be back at Didcot again soon, I have to drive past on the M4 often enough!

 

Cheers

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When I did my fire and drive with City of Truro I arrived early to help prepare the locomotive and was given a large rag and a can of WD40. I was very proud of my hard work before breakfast and I do appreciate all the hard work that volunteers put in, but my memory of the real thing was very different and that is what I am trying to model. Please take no offense at my earlier comment.

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As I said - no offence taken, said in jest good sir! I though the cleaning regime might be of interest as it is how it was done back in the day to assist with weathering and painting projects. Sorry if I gave an otherwise impression!

 

All the best,

 

Castle

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