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Delph - Jubilee rollercoaster continues


Dave Holt

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Except for the buffer heads and final finishing, my Brassmasters Jubilee in now structurally complete, ready for painting, except......
More problems have arisen, so it's currently a series of ups and downs.
Final assembly and attachment to the tender has confirmed that the fall plate(s) will have to be omitted or heavily modified. As modelled, they probably work fine with the Stanier 4000 gallon tender, but with the Fowler 3500 they are too wide and long. This results in them jamming under the cab doors and contacting the filler plates that surround the brake and water scoop columns, preventing any angular movement of the tender relative to the loco to follow curves. I could trim the fall plates to miss the filler plates, but that would still leave the cab door issue. I'll have to see about that.
I've previously mentioned the DCC chip problems and partial recovery and I confidently expected coupling of the tender pick up wires to the loco would help improve the loco response, but it hasn't really improved matters, so, presumably, it's not just a pick up issue. What is worse, is that now everything is connected, electrically, I seem to have introduced a dead short in the reverse direction only. Since it shorts one way but not the other, the short must be due to some movement withing the pick up arrangements, possibly due to the loco suspension. There doesn't seam to be a mechanism for the problem to be with the tender pick up arrangements, so I'll have to investigate the loco. At present, the motor is only constrained from movement by the (quite stiff) connecting wires and I've noticed that the front brake blocks are perilously close to the wheels, so they will be my first bits to check out. There isn't a lot of clearance between the brake hangers and the rear wheels of the bogie, so any stretching of the front brake pull rod will have to be done very carefully, so as not to transfer the problem!
The other area to look at is contact of the wheels inside the splashers. Perhaps when the loco pushes the tender, the draw-bar forces tend to push the rear of the loco slightly to one side, causing the drivers to touch inside the splasher. Mind you, for that to cause a dead short, something on the other side would also have to be touching at the same time.
Isn't fault finding so much more of a challenge that building in the first place?
Anyway, here are three shots of the loco before it comes apart to investigate the above issues. I've even temporarily fitted the front number plate (45701) and shed plate (26A - Newton Heath). Unusually, my chosen loco remained at this shed for nearly its whole working life, returning after works visits.

 

Side on

 

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traditional front three quarters view

 

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and, finally, a rear three quarters view.

 

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Dave.

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One thing to try is running it up in a dark room - shorts then often give themselves away with a flash. I also remember once having a problem in one direction only which was due to the throw out on the motor shaft reducing the clearance of the flywheel in one direction only.

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Dave, I have the same problem with a Brassmasters Re built Scot, if the drivers are from Ultrascale they are wider than other makes of wheels by about 0.5mm, enough in a tight space of splashers. The problem cannot be solved by simply moving the splasher front as this then destroys the etched rivets on the footplate top. This reinforces the need to build the chassis first and then do the body checking all the time for potential shorts.

 

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The problem cannot be solved by simply moving the splasher front as this then destroys the etched rivets on the footplate top. This reinforces the need to build the chassis first and then do the body checking all the time for potential shorts.

 

That's what Archers detailing rivets are for...or at least one of their uses.

 

Cracking engine Dave. Currently battling my way through a Finney 51xx.

 

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Mike

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Thats, lovely work.

Rick thought you might be interested in seeing his. Taken at Warley, it's almost complete and the weathering is to finish but he hasn't done a bad job.

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