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Carriage Building


My first entry: The other day I began having a look at creating a semi-fictional GW 6-wheel brake carriage, having been inspired by an article on the Swansea Railway Modellers Group. 
 

I already had a Triang 6-wheel chassis, a suitable chassis for now which will be heavily detailed in the near future. The body? Taken from a ratio kit which I had started painting but never got any further. 
 

Work over the past couple of days has included shortening the ends of the chassis slightly to accept the ratio body, reducing the ride height slightly and adding new wheels for a better ride. 
The photos below show the progress so far, still a long way to come but I hope to have the footboards added by the end of today. 
 

(Below) The chassis ready for accepting the body. The middle wheelset has been filed flat to ensure good running qualities. Brake gear, linkages and other gubbins will appear eventually.

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(Below) The chassis side on. Not much change yet but footboards and tie bars will be added soon. I’m also planning to remove and re-site the brake blocks, add new whitemetal axleboxes and springs, as the triang offering has no relief whatsoever.

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(Below) A test fit of the body shows how it could look in the end. As well as the details to the underframe, new buffers, couplings and vac pipes will appear. Hopefully it’ll end up looking somewhat half decent.BC632793-973A-465E-836D-4E15479A3E7A.jpeg.6f25662ae24c09a0adb1d4436cd20f22.jpeg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nice to see that the new ranges of RTR 4- and 6- wheelers hasn't put a stop to projects like this. The Triang coaches and Ratio sides have been the subject of so much modelling creativity over the years, it would be a shame to see it end.

 

That clerestory coach in the background looks interesting too.

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On 05/03/2021 at 06:31, Mikkel said:

Nice to see that the new ranges of RTR 4- and 6- wheelers hasn't put a stop to projects like this. The Triang coaches and Ratio sides have been the subject of so much modelling creativity over the years, it would be a shame to see it end.

 

That clerestory coach in the background looks interesting too.

Thanks! The clerestory coach in the background is another ongoing project - eventually it will join the 6-wheeler after painting and detailing. Also got to do something about those terrible triang bogies...

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Looking good! I'm sure you're familiar with @Penrhos1920's website - endless variety; if what you've built isn't a good match for something there then you can argue it's a type that was extinct by the time the diagram book was compiled or failing that, the diagram is wrong!

 

For better quality (prototypical ride-height for starters) 6-wheel underframes you might like to look a the Chivers Finelines LMS fish van recently reintroduced by Five79, perhaps married with the Brassmasters Cleminson kit. I see that, realising the utility of the underframe, Five79 list it as coming soon as a separate item, so you don't need to populate your layout with grounded out-of-period fish van bodies. In fact, if you're going for cast axlebox-spring units then the Brassmasters unit with scratchbuilt solebars and headstocks may well be simpler than trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear of the Hornby underframe.

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28 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Looking good! I'm sure you're familiar with @Penrhos1920's website - endless variety; if what you've built isn't a good match for something there then you can argue it's a type that was extinct by the time the diagram book was compiled or failing that, the diagram is wrong!

 

For better quality (prototypical ride-height for starters) 6-wheel underframes you might like to look a the Chivers Finelines LMS fish van recently reintroduced by Five79, perhaps married with the Brassmasters Cleminson kit. I see that, realising the utility of the underframe, Five79 list it as coming soon as a separate item, so you don't need to populate your layout with grounded out-of-period fish van bodies. In fact, if you're going for cast axlebox-spring units then the Brassmasters unit with scratchbuilt solebars and headstocks may well be simpler than trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear of the Hornby underframe.

Thanks for the pointers, it certainly involves a little modellers license but I’m going to take those suggestions just in case anyone at exhibitions challenges the existence of such a model! 
 

The Tri-ang underframe is a good start but I agree the ride height is a little high, hopefully it won’t look too out of place with the other coaches I am planning to revamp. I think the Chivers option may appear some time in the future! 

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I've used Mainly Trains underframes combined with the Brassmasters cleminson unit to produce  6 wheelers from Ratio bodies.  The Mainly Trains uframe was designed for the Ratio kits and includes Buffer beams, cast springs and axleboxes (only 4), solebars.  I've found the footboards to be too wide for my needs as they can foul the platform but that's easily solved with some tin snips in my case.

 

The Mainly Trains range, designed by Iain Rice is now with Wizard/51L.  No connection etc.

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