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P4 - (Another) diesel servicing point diorama - a start!


Jon020

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Well, here we have a slightly different project to compete with the loco detailing projects and writing projects and drawing projects, (and and and) that are all seeming vying for my spare time at the moment... a small diorama layout to plant the P4 locos completed and under construction.

The theme is rather tedious I’m afraid... just another small servicing/storage yard, making use of the Bachmann single-road shed, a scalescenes inspection pit and some knightwing bits (that are still in their bags)... other details will get added as inspiration and time permits, but for now I just need to get the basis planted so that there’s something to sit NIMBUS on when exhibited at our local show in May... er, just 6 weeks away. Time to extract digit!

As I had an extra day’s leave that I had to use or lose today, I spent it in the last of the sunshine knocking up a small baseboard 100cmx30cm, using 9mm ply and 1¾â€x½â€ softwood frame. This has been treated to a couple of coats of grey primer to seal it all... and it’ll get some finishing when I’m nearer finishing. Holes are cut at one end to accept the Power cab wall panel and power lead... and that’s it.

Now... the quandary. The photo shows a plan... I’m not going to have room here for turnouts; the only one constructed so far is a C10... and that’s too long for this... far better suited for the main line. So the “display†bit will be these four lines... allowing (in theory) transition via cassette at the near end. The far end needs something, but I’m not sure what yet... maybe a mirror might be worth trying?

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The track is C&L P4 Bullhead nickel silver... so I can use the blackening agent if desired... but it’ll all be painted anyway.

 

Inspection pit uses 1 and a bit sections of the scalescenes free download file... which I had a go at, to see whether these were something I’d like to try again. I think it’s ok... so I’m going to try some more. I used ordinary 80gsm printer paper stuck to daler board which is about 1.5mm thick... so a compromise on the suggested 1mm and 2mm board... thicker bits were bolstered with a couple of layers of thinner card to get the right thickness... which was important for the step height.

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Rails are ordinary peco code 100 (from the drawer) rather than C&L ... as flat bottom was going to be the easier option here – but it’s all mostly hidden and it’ll be inside the shed, so it should be ok. The C&L will be on thin cork so the rail height should match.

 

But the main question is whether the plan for 4 roads looks ok. It’s a little tight I admit, but the mid term plan is to do another of these boards and place it behind this one (parallel) and put a 4 road main line in... with some back-scene... which will allow some depth... in theory.

At the present, the two front roads a storage lines... but I’d intend for a concrete apron (construction method to be determined) under and in front of the shed... and on the adjacent road. The front road would be sleepers.... as shown... and the short rear road terminated with buffers short of the shed.

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But.., would it be better with fewer roads. My thoughts are that this might work... I started with three but it lacked interest... 4 might be a bit tight, but it will allow some depth and foreground/background comparison in tight shots... and look better with the second board in place (if plans continue).

The plan is to allow the deltic to sit inside or just outside, or alongside the shed. One or two TTAs will compete the scene. The P4’d 37 hasn’t been started... the 47 is a work in progress... but eventually they’ll take their place.

I’m not vying to compete with Sandhills Jon here... no chance, but his work is inspirational. So, let’s see what I can do.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks....

 

Jon

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Looks like you're off to a good start Jon. FWIW I reckon four roads are a bit busy in the space you have available, for a couple of reasons: In real life I think having a bit of space on each side of the shed road on the apron would be important for working on the locos. And in the model I reckon a bit of vertical scenery (fence, lamp hut, low wall, maintenance catwalk, etc. etc.) would be good in the background, especially with the main lines behind it.

 

If it were me I'd keep the front 3 in the positions you have them and delete the back one, or (maybe) have it peek out from behind the shed and then stop about halfway into the scene. That'd net you a nice buffer stop which adds a bit of interest as well, and allow a wagon or part of a loco to show behind the shed which I reckon would look good.

 

Just my 2p.

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Hi Jon. Looks good so far, but I'd tend to agree with Will: there's a bit too much track. Personally I would probably loose the front one and put a couple of view block sheds (or similar) at the front, and have a fairly "heavy" background (embankment or similar) to balance it off. But that's a matter of taste of course.

 

If you decide to stay with the four tracks, it would probably be good to have a relatively clean look of the ground, and figure out a few other viewblocks (like the fuel point, or other delicate upright vertical things) to disperse round the diorama, so as to increase the sense of space.

 

I like the look of that shed. Bachmann are making good progress in the building department, I think.

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A good start Jon - good to see that one day's holiday put to good use (I used to do the same when I was working in London...one thing I couldn't stand was to lose holiday entitlement especially if I had been too busy to take it...usually came at this time too - end of financial year?)

 

Just to offer a slightly different option to Will's interesting 2p, my 2p would be move the two tracks slightly over to the front and imagine these were your main line and then spin the diorama 180 degrees so the short road and shed are in the foreground, Nimbus is on show in all her glory with your TTA's etc and perhaps have an extract of an express train passing by in the background (even if you haven't gotten around to modifying any of the stock for it) set against a backscene...be it blue sky or photographic montage.

 

Just a thought - feel free to ignore... :D

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Looks like you're off to a good start Jon. FWIW I reckon four roads are a bit busy in the space you have available, for a couple of reasons: In real life I think having a bit of space on each side of the shed road on the apron would be important for working on the locos. And in the model I reckon a bit of vertical scenery (fence, lamp hut, low wall, maintenance catwalk, etc. etc.) would be good in the background, especially with the main lines behind it.If it were me I'd keep the front 3 in the positions you have them and delete the back one, or (maybe) have it peek out from behind the shed and then stop about halfway into the scene. That'd net you a nice buffer stop which adds a bit of interest as well, and allow a wagon or part of a loco to show behind the shed which I reckon would look good.Just my 2p.

Hi Will, thanks for the comments. I think the photo's probably not as clear as it should've been then; I'd intended to leave space either side of the shed as you suggested, and that was why the 4th road, the rear one, stops short rather than run behind it. If I let it run behing the shed, it would all be too tight... as you suggest. I think you're right about it being nice to have something behind the shed; that was my first option (not shown) but I thought that having two lines in front of the shed might give more interest. The verticals are needed yes.., I was intending to look at Whitemarsh yard for some pointers there - I see you've done some more to it recently... or are those just more pics from a while ago on Flickr?

 

Hi Jon. Looks good so far, but I'd tend to agree with Will: there's a bit too much track. Personally I would probably loose the front one and put a couple of view block sheds (or similar) at the front, and have a fairly "heavy" background (embankment or similar) to balance it off. But that's a matter of taste of course.If you decide to stay with the four tracks, it would probably be good to have a relatively clean look of the ground, and figure out a few other viewblocks (like the fuel point, or other delicate upright vertical things) to disperse round the diorama, so as to increase the sense of space.I like the look of that shed. Bachmann are making good progress in the building department, I think.

Thanks Mikkel. To be honest, I think that the clear look might be one I end up with for two reasons: allowing me to add the rear running lines later, and; time.... there's not much of it. Vertical blocks will be added... just need to find some time to get them built... along with finishing this plan. I will think again about loosing one of the front roads, although I'd intended them all as loco storage roads... and always liked having the ability to sit locos side by side... but yes, there aren't many locos to do this with as yet.

A good start Jon - good to see that one day's holiday put to good use (I used to do the same when I was working in London...one thing I couldn't stand was to lose holiday entitlement especially if I had been too busy to take it...usually came at this time too - end of financial year?)Just to offer a slightly different option to Will's interesting 2p, my 2p would be move the two tracks slightly over to the front and imagine these were your main line and then spin the diorama 180 degrees so the short road and shed are in the foreground, Nimbus is on show in all her glory with your TTA's etc and perhaps have an extract of an express train passing by in the background (even if you haven't gotten around to modifying any of the stock for it) set against a backscene...be it blue sky or photographic montage.Just a thought - feel free to ignore... :D

Hoildays - spot on there Pete... still lost part of a day, but that's that! I can see what you mean about the rotating, but I think that this will probably loose me too much storage space; I'm trying to think beyond just the current loco... and consider what's in build now, so that there's a locoation for locos to sit alongside each other. I'll give it some thought though, thanks.

 

Right now I need to give it a rest though as this throat virus (or whatever it is) is beginning to get the better of me... over a week now and still can't talk properly without squeeking... and that irritates the throat which (as last night) left me hacking away for over two hours - not a recommended way to sepnd the early hours. The result of which is a little feeling of jadedness. As I'm away for the next few days too... always nice to be away when feeling unwell (not)... I'll be able to give all of this some more thought. So, thanks again for the comments... and I'll aim for some clearer thoughts... as soon as the head stops spinning that is.

Thanks

Jon

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Looking good so far, but there's another vote for less track from me as well, it's going to look far too busy with the 4 tracks on there. The one stopping by the shed is a good idea, but I think you should lose one of the front tracks and space everything out a bit more. You can get a bit more scenery in there then too.

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3 roads it will probably be then... with servicing shed in the centre so that I can sit locos/stock behind the shed, and some in front. I now plan to built the refuelling point to check clearances between the roads... as/when time permits. Thanks for all the comments.

Jon

 

UPDATE:

A little time this afternoon allowed me to run the board down and give it a coat of halfords primer, which I prefer... and dig out the fueling point and stick a couple of bit together. I also have the de-fueling point.. or rather a bag of bits that should make the item... but no pictures or instructions (Don't suppose anyone has a set of instructions spare do they???)

 

Anyway, lets see if this picture loads up

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Thanks for the suggestions, I think that with the architectural bits in place, this will be sufficient.

Jon

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