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  1. The picture on page 19 is the same one! Thought I'd seen it before somewhere. Stephen Austin says the location is Mill Down, north of Blandford. Well done 03060 for finding the published picture.
  2. I think the train could be southbound at roughly grid ref 881078 on my 1:25,000 map (if I’ve got my eastings and northings in the right order). The line was cut into a slope with high ground to the right. But there are others with much better local knowledge than me that would surely clarify this.
  3. Looks like Milldown, north of Blandford, on the level section at the top of the 1 in 80 gradient visible in the distance in the picture. Very much a chalk area. Rocks were sandier in the Broadstone and Corfe Mullen area.
  4. G A Richardson's Bradford Barton book has a picture on page 65 of 2223 leaving Shillingstone tender first on the Bailey Gate to Templecombe milk train. Must have been draughty for the crew which could explain why photographs of this class on this service are rare. Perhaps the crew would have preferred to run smokebox first when going south faster to keep to the passenger timetable. The other three pictures of the returning northbound milkie in this book all show the loco running smokebox first which seems to have been nearly always the case.
  5. You post something and the very next day you find you were wrong! Contrary to Hugh Ballantyne’s caption, a Facebook posting https://www.facebook.com/groups/545471755582028/ showing 35023 at Templecombe shed stated that the Southern Counties railtour arrived at Templecombe from Bournemouth behind 73022. 35023 was there for the run back to London via Salisbury. This is confirmed by http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/ So 35023 did run on the S&D but only from Templecombe Upper to No. 3 Junction and the shed. Hornby’s model would look good on my “Templecombe Lower”. Will I rush out and buy it? Probably not.
  6. Couple of further additions to the S&D visitors list: 35023 Worked 28/3/65 Southern Counties railtour from Bournemouth to Templecombe. See S&D Remembered Highbridge to Bournemouth by Hugh Ballantyne page 45. 73082 photographed it at Blandford on 1/4/64 on the 4.13 Evercreech to Bournemouth.
  7. Looking back in my notebooks from 1964, the 6.35 Evercreech-Poole, the 3.05 Poole-Templecombe and the Templecombe-Blandford pick up had two guards vans, usually at either end, but twice the 6.35 had both at the rear. The two blog pictures of 75073 (same train) would have been the 6.35 - again with vans at either end. These were the freights that reversed at Templecombe. The 8pm freight from Poole had one guard’s van but this didn’t reverse there. If anyone feels the urge to research S&D freight traffic, the Washford Trust has masses of stuff in the Taunton record office. Years ago I helped to archive documents that were rescued by driver Alwyn Hannam from offices at Templecombe when the line closed. There were over 3,000 freight invoices from 1939 to 1943, especially for stone from Chilcompton and Binegar and coal from Radstock for locomotives. Other documents included air raid precautions, animal feedstuff movements from Lever Brothers at Port Sunlight, staffing pay / conditions etc, shunting returns, engine / crew / coach diagrams, and much much more!
  8. Pannier tanks frequently worked to Blandford on the daily pick up goods and sometimes to Bailey Gate for milk traffic. I seem to recall seeing a picture of a pannier tank at Blandford on the 12.23 Templecombe to Bournemouth train but that was most unusual. I can't think why GWR locos shouldn't go to Bournemouth - they did go there from Weymouth sometimes.
  9. Jack, I too thought that the 3.35 from Templecombe used carriages from a Highbridge train. In my passenger timetables it went to Bailey Gate in summer 1960 but by summer 1963 and afterwards it terminated at Blandford - for passengers. Looking back at the 1955 WTT, the 3.35 also went to Bailey Gate as you’d expect, arriving at 4.26, but in the up passenger train pages there’s a surprise. There are two “milk” departures from Bailey Gate – at 4.45 and 5.30, the latter labelled Q ie runs when required. I couldn’t find a corresponding working though that would get a loco in place to haul that, but maybe I’ve overlooked something. Could the two video workings (75008 and 4691) that have no passenger coaches be that Q working? On the day that I saw the 3.35 at Blandford in 1964 it didn’t need to go on to Bailey Gate for milk tankers so the loco just ran round there and waited in the down platform, eventually returning north after the up mail had cleared the single line section to Shillingstone. After the timetable changed, on other days in theory could the loco have left its coaches in the down platform and continued light engine or just with van to collect milk tankers from Bailey Gate? Sounds very unlikely to me, and I’d always presumed that everything went on to Bailey Gate, but that’s the only way that I can imagine that the 3.35 would have “morphed into the working in the video”. Tim.
  10. Interesting sequences in the video but none of the return working of the 3.35 off Templecombe. The Standard 4-6-0 with the large tender facing south would likely have been the loco on the 06.35 Evercreech to Poole freight. I don’t think milk wagons were transported in this working but that doesn’t stop the loco being used to shunt in the creamery sidings. Working timetables support this. In 1950 this freight arrived Bailey Gate at 9.30 and stayed until 11.55! In 1955 it arrived at 9.26 and left at 10.40. There’s the picture we've seen before of 4691 with van and milk tank but no passenger coaches. Similar for the 4-6-0 with the small tender. Were there occasional untimetabled workings from Templecombe to collect milk tankers? 75071 facing north in the blog was the loco off the 3pm Poole freight prior to attaching milk tankers to the up mail.
  11. Interesting sequences in the video but none of the return working of the 3.35 off Templecombe. The Standard 4-6-0 with the large tender facing south would likely have been the loco on the 06.35 Evercreech to Poole freight. I don’t think milk wagons were transported in this working but that doesn’t stop the loco being used to shunt in the creamery sidings. Working timetables support this. In 1950 this freight arrived Bailey Gate at 9.30 and stayed until 11.55! In 1955 it arrived at 9.26 and left at 10.40. There’s the picture we've seen before of 4691 with van and milk tank but no passenger coaches. Similar for the 4-6-0 with the small tender. Were there occasional untimetabled workings from Templecombe to collect milk tankers? 75071 facing north in the blog was the loco off the 3pm Poole freight prior to attaching milk tankers to the up mail.
  12. Several of my pics have found their way into this sequence, including the one quoted as "exPoole en route to Bailey Gate". It was in fact the 6.35 from Evercreech leaving Blandford, as Chris says, and on its way to Poole. The pannier tank at Bailey Gate is interesting. It can't be the return working of the 3.35 from Templecombe as there is no passenger coach in the formation.
  13. On the half dozen occasions I saw the 3.35 off Templecombe or the return "milkie" the loco was always bunker first going south. I don't recall seeing any published photos showing the opposite. Locos used: 41296 (twice), 41242, 80067, 80037, 80059. The train would reverse at Blandford if there were no milk wagons waiting at Bailey Gate. Why did the locos work this way round?
  14. Jack, There’s some info and pictures about Dorset end freight in the last 2/3 Midsomer Norton Telegraph magazines, principally about the fertiliser traffic. Also SDRT Pines Express issue 214 re the last three years. Have a look through “Somerset and dorset Railway” on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/396180353778795/ where there’s some that I took, the attachment here being the last one. It means scrolling back a few months, though I’m sure that would be time enjoyably spent! Tim.
  15. The train at Stur would have been the 15.35 Templecombe to Bailey Gate which tended to be worked bunker first, often by a class 4 tank in 1964/5. It wasn’t due to pass an up train so the lad should have been safe.
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